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re: Ingram contract offer rumor 4/160-180
Posted on 7/6/24 at 8:35 pm to brmark70816
Posted on 7/6/24 at 8:35 pm to brmark70816
quote:
Why wouldn't Ingram just sign a one year extension? That would make him a UFA when he has 10 years of service (like Mitchell).
Teams don’t want to trade for him because they don’t want to pay him 30% of the cap, you think they are going to be lining up to pay him 35%?
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Posted on 7/6/24 at 8:39 pm to Pels_Yaz
Lots of mental gymnastics in this thread. This team without another trade is sub optimal. Everyone here knows it.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 8:48 pm to whatiknowsofar
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How do you guys feel about paying ingram 40-45 mil per year?
Not good. Unless he drastically changes his shot profile, which I doubt considering it’s gotten worse every year he’s been here, I think he’s a detriment to our championship hopes. Needs the ball in his hands way too much and I feel our chances are better with that ball mainly being in Zion and DJs hands. If he’d commit to playing like early season CJ as more of a catch and shoot guy who occasionally creates when needed we’d be good but I don’t see it happening.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 8:53 pm to tehchampion140
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If he’d commit to playing like early season CJ as more of a catch and shoot guy who occasionally creates when needed we’d be good but I don’t see it happening.
I mean I don’t find the purpose of bringing BI back if he basically is an older higher paid Trey Murphy.
This is a serious question for the group. Now that we have Dejounte, what does BI actually do that someone on our team doesn’t do the same or better? You can technically say hes an elite shot creator and great mid range shooter- but doesn’t dejounte do that as well?
Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:06 pm to Epic Cajun
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Teams don’t want to trade for him because they don’t want to pay him 30% of the cap, you think they are going to be lining up to pay him 35%?
I don't think it will matter on a short term deal. If he shines, then some team won't mind extending him on a bigger number. He needs the opportunity to show teams he is a true max player, which he isn't at this point.
He can sign a 1+1 (player option). That would give him a bit more security and make him more attractive to other teams, that are scared by the additional years. It's a good compromise and we don't have to take a bad deal just to shed him.
It's not a good situation and we kind of shite the bed not making a deal earlier. But it's not the end of the world. We can't just give him away. So we're stuck..
Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:16 pm to spaghettioeauxs
quote:Earley.
This dude lives and breathes shitting on BI. You need a new hobby
I don't know what's worse. Him shitting on bi or dantheman wanting to bang tyus jones(the greatest pg ever born)
Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:17 pm to 3PieceSpicy
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I’m A OK w 4 yr 160M tbh. I think he’s movable down the line at that number. I’m judging him on the whole body of work. Not just the OKC series. I’d even be willing to escalate it up to $180M (up to a $5M bonus a year for playing 70 games or more).
Agreed. 40 mil is fine
Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:20 pm to Pels_Yaz
quote:
It also means his trade value is toast as well.
According to who?
Yall act like just because he hasn't been traded yet that his value is shite. These things take time. Griff and teams are playing chicken
Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:25 pm to Chalkywhite84
quote:
According to who? Yall act like just because he hasn't been traded yet that his value is shite. These things take time. Griff and teams are playing chicken
This comment was a reply made if BI got benched and played bad this year. So please follow the thread appropriately.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:45 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:
How do you guys feel about paying ingram 40-45 mil per year?
I’d rather hit my self in the nuts with a hammer.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:46 pm to ThePistol
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I firmly believe it is in the team’s best interest to take a slightly lesser deal now for Ingram, especially if it nets a real center, than going into the season with him and the roster/development issues it creates.
That is a horrible way to do business.
Griffin should've never put himself in a position to where he could only acquire a center by trading bi. Two wrongs don't make a right. You hold bi till you get the right deal.
You don't trade him for a shitty center
Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:47 pm to TigerinATL
quote:
BI has the size to play small ball 5. Honestly getting Ingram to cave on his contract, not trading him, and it working out is the kind of lucky failing forward that Griff does
I don't agree and teams would kill the pels
Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:49 pm to brmark70816
quote:
Why wouldn't Ingram just sign a one year extension? That would make him a UFA when he has 10 years of service (like Mitchell). That gives him 2 years to stack up numbers and potential awards for a huge extension. What would be the max 1 year deal? 45M?
Cause he is under the impression the pels owe him the max. He also thinks another team will give it to him if the pels don't. These dudes are extremely prideful.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:49 pm to Chalkywhite84
quote:
Two wrongs don't make a right. You hold bi till you get the right deal.
Part of the wrong was Griffin holding on BI too long. If he traded him last summer or at deadline we would likely had better offers. Holding onto BI may not be better for the team.
Your advice of holding onto BI longer is actually the “two wrongs” you’re advising against.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:54 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:
The issue is, who goes to the bench and who starts next season if he’s brought back. You can’t bench him if you’re trying to trade him, you should probably be looking to trade CJ next off season, so you can’t really bench him either, and Herb and Trey should probably both be starting. Not to mention that we don’t have a center. Sure we could probably
Trey would be on the bench
Posted on 7/6/24 at 11:07 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:What the hell? Since when is Lonzo not a PG?
Neither are PGs.
Just b/c their nba page says they are PGs doesn’t make them one.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 5:56 am to whatiknowsofar
I don’t know if either side agrees on 4 years. I’m thinking 3 years 120 if he stays. I think he’s suited up with no extension come game 1. Might be playing center cause we only have 1 though.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:18 am to NOSHAU
quote:
What the hell? Since when is Lonzo not a PG?
Lonzo was a PG until he crossed half court and had to run the offense.
Did you watch the pelicans with Lonzo? He basically sat on the three point line and didn’t move and did nothing but wait to catch and shoot a 3. He doesn’t have a good handle, was scared to penetrate, and had no offense other than shooting threes and throwing half court alley oops.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:19 am to LSUBALLER
quote:
We were hot as hell going into playoffs without BI on floor.
Actually in Feb/March we were 14-5 with a healthy Ingram and Zion through March 21.
After Ingram got dinged we went 7-5 to close out the regular season.
Then Zion got hurt in the April playing game vs Lakers.
Ingram had just got back from being off for 3 weeks, and played the playoffs.
In short both of our best players got hurt at the worst possible time. We were much better when we had BOTH of Ingram and Zion to finish the year.
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 7:20 am
Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:19 am to slutiger5
Derozan signing with Sac seemingly takes them out of the running, I assume.
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