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re: Hornets 24/7 "Rumor" regarding 10th pick

Posted on 6/19/12 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/19/12 at 2:22 pm to
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I think jason smith would do us better than Milshorts with equal minutes.




I like Smith, but Millsap is a much better player.

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Millsap is an idealized Sullinger or a better Carl Landry. He's at a great price for his production, but only has one year left and will be looking for a big pay out. Not sure I see the logic with this potential trade.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27836 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 2:24 pm to
Not a bad deal. Millsap is only 27 and has had PER's of around 20.00 the past two seasons. Offensively a good fit. Much like Sullinger.

quote:

Alec Burks sucks
He was a rookie last year.

If Burks is included then I really like it.
This post was edited on 6/19/12 at 2:24 pm
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18892 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 2:26 pm to
So you want to trade the 10th pick for the 47th pick, a SG who had an unimpressive rookie season and would sit behind Gordon, and a soon to be 4th or 5th PF on the roster?
Posted by MinnesotaTiger
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/19/12 at 2:27 pm to
This Milsaps rumor is bullshite IMO.

I'd just as soon keep the #10 pick and pay Landry market value to stay for a few more years rather than blow it on Milshorts.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27836 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

So you want to trade the 10th pick for the 47th pick, a SG who had an unimpressive rookie season and would sit behind Gordon, and a soon to be 4th or 5th PF on the roster?


never said I wanted to do it. I would rather take the gamble on Waiters, Lillard or Rivers.

But if they are looking to move the pick then they could do a lot worse than a starting PF who has a PER average of around 20.00 the past two seasons and a 20 year old SG/SF with upside.
This post was edited on 6/19/12 at 2:29 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/19/12 at 2:29 pm to
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and a soon to be 4th or 5th PF on the roster?

wait...what?

he'd be our 2nd 4, and i bet we'd play davis and milsap a lot. milsap's great outside shooting would complem ent davis
This post was edited on 6/19/12 at 2:30 pm
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27836 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 2:31 pm to
i think he meant by adding Millsap we'd now have a 4th or 5th PF on the roster. not be the 4th or 5th PF.
This post was edited on 6/19/12 at 2:32 pm
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18892 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 2:31 pm to
Sure you could do worse, but Millsap is going to demand a big contract next year which we won't want to pay. No reason to pay a PF a $9-10m a year contract when we're drafting a guy who we expect to eventually be the starter at a much cheaper price. The only way I'd do it is if Millsap would help us contend for a championship next year, which he obviously won't.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/19/12 at 2:31 pm to
oh ok, i misread that

this hate for millsap is unreal

and i think davis is going to end up at the 5, so we'll need a legit 4
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18892 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

i think he meant we'd be adding a 4th or 5th PF not be the 4th or 5th PF.


This is what I meant. We have plenty of serviceable 4s already with Smiht, Ayon, and Landry, and drafting Davis adds another. We won't have a big need at PF so there's no reason to trade so far down out of the top 10 to acquire another one.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478210 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

but Millsap is going to demand a big contract next year

doubtful he'll actually receive one, though

and if we get a good veteran, he's going to need to be paid. i will never understand why this board is so obsessed with not acquiring proven talent for cheap
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478210 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 2:33 pm to
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We have plenty of serviceable 4s already with Smiht, Ayon, and Landry,

landry is gone

smith is ok at best

ayon may be a good hustle guy

davis likely is a 5
Posted by Puddinhead
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
4299 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

We won't have a big need at PF so there's no reason to trade so far down out of the top 10 to acquire another one.


Precisely my thoughts.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27836 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

i will never understand why this board is so obsessed with not acquiring proven talent for cheap


b/c they want to try and follow what OKC did through the draft. That shite ain't happening too often.

Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18892 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

davis likely is a 5

I think his game best fits at the 5 but I think he has to start out at the 4 until he bulks up. He would already be a short 5 at 6'10, although his wingspan would make up for it, but he's way too skinny to play there right now. I think if he adds a good bit of weight and muscle in the next year or two then he can be moved to the 5.
Posted by Puddinhead
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
4299 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 2:37 pm to
The 10th pick is a lot to give up if you aren't significantly upgrading your team. People need to lay off wanting a trade for the sake of making moves.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27836 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

landry is gone

yep

quote:

smith is ok at best

I wont even give him that. Not until he plays well in a post season game on the road.

quote:

ayon may be a good hustle guy

2nd

quote:

davis likely is a 5

and at the very least will play the 5 in crunch/winning time.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478210 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

The 10th pick is a lot to give up if you aren't significantly upgrading your team.

the 10th pick isn't really that valuable

we'll probably be able to buy one in the 20s if benson isn't cheap, anyway
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

People need to lay off wanting a trade for the sake of making moves.


This, I'm not opposed to trades, but I'm opposed to most of the trades I'm seeing suggested here.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 6/19/12 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

the 10th pick isn't really that valuable

we'll probably be able to buy one in the 20s if benson isn't cheap, anyway


History suggest it is way more valuable than one in the 20s.
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