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Glass half-full
Posted on 4/14/24 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 4/14/24 at 5:02 pm
If Pels choke in the play-in, we may get rid of Willie (wishful thinking?)!
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 5:03 pm to jrobic4
He should be gone for making the play in.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 5:55 pm to 50_Tiger
we'd be the 3 seed in the east. the west is ridiculous this year
Posted on 4/14/24 at 6:09 pm to cfish140
quote:Irrelevant
we'd be the 3 seed in the east. the west is ridiculous this year
Zion plays 70 games, and we're in the play in with a real chance to miss the playoffs.
Even if we get in, we have very little chance to win a playoff series.
Healthy Zion, play in and 1st round exit is a complete disaster any way you look at it.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:46 am to shel311
i AGREE...REMEMBER WE WERE THE 1 SEED EARLY IN THE SEASON FOR A WHILE UNTIL THE INJURY BUG HIT US...SHOWS WE ARE CAPABLE!!!
Posted on 4/15/24 at 11:56 am to SJHTIGER
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i AGREE...REMEMBER WE WERE THE 1 SEED EARLY IN THE SEASON FOR A WHILE UNTIL THE INJURY BUG HIT US...SHOWS WE ARE CAPABLE!!!
Lol that was last year. We were never the 1 seed this year.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:33 pm to shel311
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Healthy Zion, play in and 1st round exit is a complete disaster any way you look at it.
Can’t really argue with this. Only with the caveat that we didn’t have a healthy AND in shape Zion for all that long. But I’m not sure that will ever necessarily change.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:35 pm to LSUgrad88
quote:True
Only with the caveat that we didn’t have a healthy AND in shape Zion for all that long. But I’m not sure that will ever necessarily change.
If I can go super Pels pessimist for a second, I'm almost worried that the post All Star break version of Zion we all loved is kind of a bad thing....meaning...
If that is peak Zion, it's just nowhere near good enough to be a true #1 on a team. He's awesome, and yet still so far away from the top 8 dudes, that I don't see how he can ever get there.
But yes, overall I was obviously happy Zion got in shape, started playing defense, and got super aggressive(minus the last game for some reason lol)
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:42 pm to shel311
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If that is peak Zion, it's just nowhere near good enough to be a true #1 on a team. He's awesome, and yet still so far away from the top 8 dudes, that I don't see how he can ever get there.
I don't think it's peak Zion. I think he'll continue to get better and better. Just look at his pull ups and defense the last month. He gets 20 percent better at both of those and he's right there with the top 8 minus maybe Jokic and Luka.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:43 pm to ghost2most
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I think he'll continue to get better and better.
Maybe. I don’t know. Hes played 2 healthy seasons in 5 years. I hope this year is the norm but right now its an outlier.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:47 pm to ghost2most
quote:Certainly possible
I don't think it's peak Zion.
quote:Problem is, he is 0 for 5 at showing up to his 1st game of the season in tip top shape and ready for the season. 0 for 4 if we take out the season he missed entirely.
I think he'll continue to get better and better. Just look at his pull ups and defense the last month. He gets 20 percent better at both of those and he's right there with the top 8 minus maybe Jokic and Luka.
So then, why would anyone have any level of confidence that he is showing up next season for Game #1 in the shape he's in right now? I think the odds of that are very small. Please Zion prove me wrong, he's just given me 5 years of data to think it would be stupid for me to assume or think it'll happen.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:59 pm to shel311
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So then, why would anyone have any level of confidence that he is showing up next season for Game #1 in the shape he's in right now? I think the odds of that are very small. Please Zion prove me wrong, he's just given me 5 years of data to think it would be stupid for me to assume or think it'll happen.
I'll show some small level of optimism which is unusual for me.
I honestly think Zion has learned some lessons, that he has grown up, and that he will, barring injury, be in good shape (for him) to start next season.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 2:10 pm to ghost2most
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Just look at his pull ups and defense the last month.
Thats the part that frustrates me. He is clearly more in shape and has some periods where he is actually dominant on the defensive end. But even now, when he’s gotten in shape, he has lapses (way too often) where he just loses focus and falls asleep on defense. While he had six steals against GS two games ago, he gave up about that many layups in the first few minutes of the third quarter in that game just by being mentally lazy. If he ever puts it together . . . But will that ever happen? This team needs him to be a superstar if we’re to be more than just a second round at best type team.
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