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Fire Dell Demps!!!
Posted on 11/24/17 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 11/24/17 at 11:33 pm
frick yall. My boy has assembled an elite team and yall frickers want him fired. Hell hes brought in elite players like Tyreke and EG who arent even here anymore. Top 5 GM in the league and he will continue to do work.
Dell with it!!!
Dell with it!!!
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 11:36 pm to dj30
shite we hot as the Saints right now
Posted on 11/24/17 at 11:48 pm to dj30
Rondo, Nelson and Miller were all great bargain finds, but he’s got tax issues that give him zero margin for error.
Also, he owes his job to Vivek. I’ll live with lucky over good for now, but it’s laughable to call him a top 5 GM.
Also, he owes his job to Vivek. I’ll live with lucky over good for now, but it’s laughable to call him a top 5 GM.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 12:03 am to dj30
You can’t be serious
Posted on 11/25/17 at 12:24 am to TigerinATL
Top 5 frickers. Give me your top 5 and Ill break it down.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 12:25 am to tunechi
Give me your top 5 then. You probably cant name 5 gms without googling them.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 12:25 am to Bayouboi25
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shite we hot as the Saints right now
Im aware.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 12:40 am to dj30
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You probably cant name 5 gms without googling them.
RC Buford - San Antonio
Danny Ainge - Boston
Bob Meyers - Golden State
Daryl Morey - Houston
Sam Presti - OKC
Masai Ujiri - Toronto
I think Demps has made better decisions since Ferry was added to the mix and I've wanted him to have a senior advisor since he got here. But he still has wasted a ton of money. This team has over $60 million tied up in Jrue/Hill/Moore/Asik/Ajinca. That's a lot of money for that level of talent, and if the rumors are to be believed, Demps will end up having spent 2 1sts on Omer Asik, one to get him in the first place and one to get rid of the horrible deal he resigned him to. 2 1sts for 1 adequate season of production.
If you asked me when Demps drafted AD if I'd be happy with the current roster 5 years later I think I'd say yes. But if you can't see that the journey here was bad and full of missteps I don't know what to tell you.
This post was edited on 11/25/17 at 1:16 am
Posted on 11/25/17 at 1:20 am to TigerinATL
AD has been here 5 seasons and demps has put together 1 winning season. You almost have to try to be that bad. We need to do a lot of winning to break even under DD
We beat a Kawhiless Spur team and a 4 win Sun team and demps is now red Auerbach
DJ you sound like salty arse Anita Demps. Win consistently then ya might have a case
We beat a Kawhiless Spur team and a 4 win Sun team and demps is now red Auerbach
DJ you sound like salty arse Anita Demps. Win consistently then ya might have a case
Posted on 11/25/17 at 3:12 am to dj30
frick You Too. Liking Dell Demps is equivalent to thinking LaVar Ball is cool.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 6:50 am to dj30
I do love the"Dell with it.". But on a more serious note (bc Dell being to 5 is laughable), our team's trajectory does feel similar, to me at least, to the Saints right before they got Drew. Not exactly the same bc we have AD, but similar in how were knocking on the door.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 8:57 am to TigerinATL
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RC Buford - San Antonio Danny Ainge - Boston Bob Meyers - Golden State Daryl Morey - Houston Sam Presti - OKC Masai Ujiri - Toronto
San Antonio has a mediocre roster. They have a Pop though. Put Pop on the Pels and there wouldn’t be a conversation.
I’ll take a team with AD and Cousins over what’s assembled in Toronto.
I guess Presti should be thanking Indy and the Knicks like you said about Vivek. Gtfoh with this hypocritical bullshite.
I like how Morey is winning with Dells old players who were always hurt when they were here.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 9:12 am to dj30
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San Antonio has a mediocre roster. They have a Pop though. Put Pop on the Pels and there wouldn’t be a conversation.
they have a HC-GM who are on the same page. They work TOGETHER in finding pieces and a roster that will work for Pop
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I’ll take a team with AD and Cousins over what’s assembled in Toronto.
Toronto didn't get he benefit of getting AD, but they drafted well (Valanciunas - 5th, DeRozan - 9th, Poeltl - 9th) and built a competent roster around the two centerpieces (Lowry, Ibaka, Miles, Poeltl). Oh and look at their 23rd pick this year
Anunoby: 47.8/36.0/61.9 shooting, 18.8 MPG, SF. He could be their answer to SF for a long time if he keeps improving.
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I guess Presti should be thanking Indy and the Knicks like you said about Vivek. Gtfoh with this hypocritical bullshite.
Presti drafted like a mad genius, his mistake was not pushing ownership to go into the tax. The second the Harden trade went down, they were derailed with bad luck and injuries in playoffs year after year.
Its not about PG and Melo, Presti drafted and brought in FA to contend year after year. There was ONE mistake and only one. Otherwise he built the best young roster that just simply couldn't get it done. Hell, they were up 3-1 and somehow choked away to GSW before Durant left.
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I like how Morey is winning with Dells old players who were always hurt when they were here.
Because he and his coach are on the same page. What does D'antoni need?? Shooters. What did Morey go after?? Shooters.
Dell lucked into Cousins, but you can't ignore the other million facts. Trading AFA, Ariza, Lopez, 1st rounder after 1st rounder, giving MASSIVE contracts to players who don't fit a system (Asik-Ajinca for Gentry).
His best decision are small ones that become desperation attempts, but you can't live with those forever. It eventually bites you in the arse and limits you.
We have 15mil of contracts we can't use (Asik, Ajinca), a 25mil guard who should be paid closer to 18-20mil (and market dictated he would have probably only needed 20mil to stay), and a plethora of 1st round draft picks that couldnt be use on depth..
This post was edited on 11/25/17 at 9:18 am
Posted on 11/25/17 at 9:43 am to htran90
htran just laid it out pretty well, if you think the Pels have a top 5 roster therefore Demps is a top 5 GM then you’re not actually evaluating GM talent.
I don’t hate Demps or think he’s an idiot. As long as Ferry stuck around or he had some other senior adviser besides Loomis, I won’t melt if he stays. In fact I’m expecting the team to be good enough that Demps/Gentry do both stay.
That being said, last year he focused on the middle tier of the FA market, the portion where teams fail to get value more often. And because he overpaid at a poor value section of the market he let a good, cheap talent he had discovered go in Ennis. Throwing away cheap talent is not something a good GM should do unless he has a good reason. Overpaying Hill or not having spare cap space because of your previous mistakes doesn’t seem like a good reason.
He also allowed himself to be leveraged by Jrue and the year before by Asik and the speculation was that one of his top choices was to trade a 1st to be leveraged again in contract talks by Lin. Meanwhile a good GM like Danny Ainge has managed his assets well enough that he could trade Isaiah Thomas for an upgrade before Thomas got leverage on him.
That’s how you become a top 5 GM. Yes he did get help from a stupid GM too, but he had the patience and other skills to turn that into a lot more. Look at what he did with trading down to possibly take a better player. Meanwhile Demps acts like he’s allergic to 1sts.
I don’t hate Demps or think he’s an idiot. As long as Ferry stuck around or he had some other senior adviser besides Loomis, I won’t melt if he stays. In fact I’m expecting the team to be good enough that Demps/Gentry do both stay.
That being said, last year he focused on the middle tier of the FA market, the portion where teams fail to get value more often. And because he overpaid at a poor value section of the market he let a good, cheap talent he had discovered go in Ennis. Throwing away cheap talent is not something a good GM should do unless he has a good reason. Overpaying Hill or not having spare cap space because of your previous mistakes doesn’t seem like a good reason.
He also allowed himself to be leveraged by Jrue and the year before by Asik and the speculation was that one of his top choices was to trade a 1st to be leveraged again in contract talks by Lin. Meanwhile a good GM like Danny Ainge has managed his assets well enough that he could trade Isaiah Thomas for an upgrade before Thomas got leverage on him.
That’s how you become a top 5 GM. Yes he did get help from a stupid GM too, but he had the patience and other skills to turn that into a lot more. Look at what he did with trading down to possibly take a better player. Meanwhile Demps acts like he’s allergic to 1sts.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 9:49 am to htran90
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Toronto didn't get he benefit of getting AD, but they drafted well (Valanciunas - 5th, DeRozan - 9th, Poeltl - 9th) and built a competent roster around the two centerpieces (Lowry, Ibaka, Miles, Poeltl). Oh and look at their 23rd pick this year
Anunoby: 47.8/36.0/61.9 shooting, 18.8 MPG, SF. He could be their answer to SF for a long time if he keeps improving
Who cares. Ill still take a team with AD and Cousins.
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The second the Harden trade went down, they were derailed with bad luck and injuries in playoffs year after year.
Its not about PG and Melo, Presti drafted and brought in FA to contend year after year.
So excuses?
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Because he and his coach are on the same page.
Gentry wanted Asik and Ajinca back.
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Dell lucked into Cousins
He didnt luck into shite. He made the trade.
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Trading AFA, Ariza, Lopez,
Dont think AFA was traded, Ariza/Okafor salaries needed to be slashed.
Ill rather take the chance on Tyreke over Lopez all day everyday.
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We have 15mil of contracts we can't use (Asik, Ajinca)
We very well can use their asses. They are our backup bigs. They need to get healthy/in shape and contribute.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 9:55 am to TigerinATL
Things have gotten better since ferry came aboard
Dell is good at small to even medium stuff but not the big moves(save boogie)
I have liked the last 2 off seasons though besides the hill overpay(though I like his skill set)
Dell is good at small to even medium stuff but not the big moves(save boogie)
I have liked the last 2 off seasons though besides the hill overpay(though I like his skill set)
Posted on 11/25/17 at 10:37 am to dj30
Gave you an upvote because the sentence "Dell with it" was hilariously creative.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 12:16 pm to dj30
Solid troll, especially the follow on posts. Would read again.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 12:35 pm to dj30
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Who cares. Ill still take a team with AD and Cousins.
Both required no skill. You in the same position would have been able to make the trade.
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So excuses?
He still drafted them, that's the point. He's a top 5 gm because he was able to do those things. Didn't work out but nobody would argue to keep dell over him
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Gentry wanted Asik and Ajinca back.
I'm sure wanted them for 5years and a combined 15m per year.
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He didnt luck into shite. He made the trade.
Like i said above. Even you could have made the trade. Any fool would, that's your same argument that you made that was all presti was good for too (pg/melo) ignoring the major facts that made him a top 5 gm was neither of those moves.
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Dont think AFA was traded, Ariza/Okafor salaries needed to be slashed.
Ill rather take the chance on Tyreke over Lopez all day everyday.
That should have been more grouped with Ennis. He let quality young sfs walk for nothing.
You also ignore the fact that season we had 2 quality guards when we traded for tyreke and then we used Greg stiemsma and Jason Smith as centers.
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We very well can use their asses. They are our backup bigs. They need to get healthy/in shape and contribute.
We have one of the fastest paces in the league. You think they can keep up? They worked well in a monty slow pace and efficient offense. They don't work well in a run and gun
Posted on 11/25/17 at 1:38 pm to htran90
Why y’all entertaining some dude with actual information and time who told everyone to frick off and probably created this thread just cause he thought of “Dell With It”.
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