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re: Could the JJ rant have been calculated by CAA?
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:27 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:27 pm to Fun Bunch
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I'd compare it more to Russiagate Piss Dossier conspiracy nonsense. Something with no truth to it at all.
So you are a Q-Anon truther? This explains a lot of your reactions in here TBH.
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:29 pm to Bronc
No. I don't know anything about Q at all beyond its some kook thing the poli board went nuts for.
I just keep seeing you mention it absolutely desperate for some kind of reaction. I wanted you to have it.
I just keep seeing you mention it absolutely desperate for some kind of reaction. I wanted you to have it.
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:32 pm to Bronc
quote:You really like to exaggerate and embellish comments to attempt to prove your point.
Go out there and risk your reputation, lie about a sensitive situation, do so by insulting your former teammate, drag him across the mud.... because we secretly think it might help us leverage a better deal for someone that isn't even you? Its absurd
The logic itself is ridiculous, it only becomes more ridiculous when you have to also require the retired, up and coming millionaire to be a willing patsy in this diffuse plot
This post was edited on 2/23/22 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:33 pm to Bronc
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So you are a Q-Anon truther? This explains a lot of your reactions in here TBH.
Good grief man you regurgitate the same handful of cliches an awful lot
Most obvious explanation is probably correct here.. JJ probably had to jump Zion's lazy arse several times while he was in New Orleans. Now this kid is disrespecting veterans like CJ and JJ just spoke his mind about it.
He softened it up quite a bit when it viral, and ESPN was quick to get Mikala Andrews to put the "ACKSHUALLY Zion DID speak to CJ a couple of days ago as a matter of fact!'
This post was edited on 2/23/22 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:33 pm to NOSHAU
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You really are embellishing comments to try and prove your point.
Let's try and explain why he does this through only his perceived political worldview.
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:41 pm to jmcwhrter
When you have JJ speaking mostly unprovoked the way he did yesterday, it's natural to see all the connections and think there may be some ulterior motive at play. I just can't see how anything that was said yesterday would be to Zion's benefit that couldn't have also been accomplished in a different way. JJ drug Zion through the mud with his comments. If the idea was to drive down trade value, he could have simply gone after how Zion is fed up with the organization and is ready to move on. Could have tied to a single team like the Knicks to further drive down the Pelicans bargaining posture. He did none of that. He attacked Zion and only Zion yesterday. There's simply no way you'll convince me that CAA thought the best way they could help their client was to make him look lazy and like a bad teammate.
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:46 pm to NOSHAU
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You really like to exaggerate and embellish comments to attempt to prove your point.
It's drawing out all the ridiculous underlying conditions that need to be met for this ridiculous conspiracy you are signing onto to be met.
Put more simply, the conspiracy is idiotic and it requires turning your brain into barely functioning mush to buy into
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:47 pm to DarkHornet
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J drug Zion through the mud with his comments. If the idea was to drive down trade value, he could have simply gone after how Zion is fed up with the organization and is ready to move on. Could have tied to a single team like the Knicks to further drive down the Pelicans bargaining posture. He did none of that.
BINGO
And the addled brain of the conspiracist will have to reach for even more implausible explanations for why CAA and JJ didn't simply do that.
And before you know it the conspiracist has layered on 4 or 5 more conspiracies in order to rationalize away common sense and lack of evidence just to keep afloat the flimsy premise they started with.
This post was edited on 2/23/22 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:49 pm to Bronc
quote:To start, JJ doesn't need to be lying, so right there your theories are dead in the water.
It's drawing out all the ridiculous underlying conditions that need to be met for this ridiculous conspiracy you are signing onto to be met.
I'm on record yesterday saying I don't think this has anything to do with CAA, and if it did, it would be in reverse. Meaning, maybe CAA can't even get ahold of their client and this is like a last ditch effort, but even that I don't think is the case.
But just like you see in the Strauss video where CAA uses their clients/connections to drive narratives, that does not mean that it has to be made up lies to do so.
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:50 pm to Bronc
You seem overly upset at people even discussing this, mostly in a lighthearted way.
How long have you worked for CAA? You're a part of all this aren't you? How deep does this conspiracy go?
How long have you worked for CAA? You're a part of all this aren't you? How deep does this conspiracy go?
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:50 pm to DarkHornet
quote:JJ's been an analyst all season. He's also had these opinions for 3 years now. It definitely begs the question as to why all of a sudden did he let it out, knowing that it would be the NBA news of the day.
When you have JJ speaking mostly unprovoked the way he did yesterday, it's natural to see all the connections and think there may be some ulterior motive at play. I just can't see how anything that was said yesterday would be to Zion's benefit that couldn't have also been accomplished in a different way. JJ drug Zion through the mud with his comments.
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:51 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:Is that different than literally any other debate with the parties involved?
You seem overly upset at people even discussing this
quote:The plot thickens!
How long have you worked for CAA? You're a part of all this aren't you? How deep does this conspiracy go?
This post was edited on 2/23/22 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:53 pm to Bronc
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Put more simply, the conspiracy is idiotic and it requires turning your brain into barely functioning mush to buy into
Bronc, as usual, you are pushing it too far. I've already agreed with you in this thread. As I said, I think that your reasoning is correct, and a CAA plot is unlikely. But that doesn't mean that anyone who thinks otherwise is idiotic and has a brain of mush.
C'mon, man. You don't have to do this all the time.
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:53 pm to shel311
Because the young buck disrespected a well respected vet and Redick wasn't having any of that.
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:54 pm to shel311
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JJ's been an analyst all season. He's also had these opinions for 3 years now. It definitely begs the question as to why all of a sudden did he let it out, knowing that it would be the NBA news of the day.
Well one answer to that could be that...he knew it would be the NBA news of the day.
And his job is now to have his takes make news.
Posted on 2/23/22 at 4:01 pm to shel311
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To start, JJ doesn't need to be lying, so right there your theories are dead in the water.
He does need to be convinced for why he should risk his reputation by conspiring with his agent on behalf of another client.
The CAA relationship the Strauss thing you quoted, that ive quoted, speaks to a mutually beneficial, or unwitting relationship.
Where a CAA reporter has a rolodex of CAA people that can feed them content for their shows that happen to also present one side of a story or feeds beneficial narratives.
This takes that a step further and adds an entirely unnecessary layer of complexity and non self interest cooperation without good reason(one that will require further conspiracy and baseless speculation to square).
Whether it is piss dossiers or Q Anon, the underlying process is the same: motivated reasoning run amok
Posted on 2/23/22 at 4:03 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:Sure, and maybe the post above yours is the explanation, where he disrespected CJ, so Redick fired back.
Well one answer to that could be that...he knew it would be the NBA news of the day.
And his job is now to have his takes make news.
But, at any point this season which is over halfway over, JJ could have made these comments about Zion's not being invested and it would have been the news of the day, and he never did until now.
Posted on 2/23/22 at 4:05 pm to GOP_Tiger
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But that doesn't mean that anyone who thinks otherwise is idiotic and has a brain of mush.
I said the conspiracy is idiotic and requires a person to turn their brain into barely functioning mush to buy into, and that is correct.
This requires a removal of critical thinking and healthy skepticism.
Lots of smart people fall into these traps, but it doesn't remove the fact that those that fall into them have done so because they are turning their brains off to logic, reason, and lack of supporting evidence.
I mean there is literally ZERO evidence to support OP, and logic is already flimsy, yet we have numerous posters attempting to layer on even more flimsy logic to prop up the initial baseless speculation. It's literally how conspiracies grow and manifest. Faulty or poorly evidenced premises people want to be true, that they keep propping up with more questionable things to sustain it.
This post was edited on 2/23/22 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 2/23/22 at 4:05 pm to GOP_Tiger
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C'mon, man. You don't have to do this all the time.
Posted on 2/23/22 at 4:10 pm to Bronc
You take things very, very seriously.
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