re: CJ has more careless turnovers than any veteran I’ve seen

CJ doesn't turn it over it's COVID!!!!!!!!

A lot of these takes exist bc all some know is
their Pels bubble. Guys who play with the ball in their hands turn it over.

Giannis, Embiid, Trae Young, Ja, Doncic are in the top 5 in the league in TOs

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I'll probably get crucified for this... We need a real point guard

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I don't disagree.

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That's because we still haven't seen this team at full strength. Also of concern, is Jose in an injury related slump or was he playing above his head for a few months? We saw how important Jose's PG play has been to winning, so they do need a good backup PG to supplement the Big 3 and step up when we have all these injuries. But I don't think they need a starting caliber PG.

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I think it's a slump. But on the flip side, he was making extremely difficult shots at a pretty good rate.

But he's currently missing everything. Layups, floaters and 3s. I think maybe he was playing a little over his head for a while and has drifted back to the mean, but this is way below where I think his baseline is.

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Zion loses the ball not infrequently just dribbling. Nothing to do with the crowd. His handle is good but he definitely has a noticeable amount of unforced turnovers.

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Exactly, and I've legit never seen one single post complaining about it in the same way people's lose their shite when CJ does it, even when CJ has lines like 31/6/7 with 2 turnovers. In those games, the game thread still sees CJ get more hate than any other player.

The number one problem with this offense right now isn't cj or even Zions turnovers, it's that there's no consistent number 3 to knock down the open shots they generate.

Trey Murphy, Jose, Dyson, herb, Jonas to an extent, all aren't knocking down the open looks. Trey was the third guy for a while but he's been in a major slump.

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Trey was the third guy for a while but he's been in a major slum

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He’s shooting 62% from three over his last 5 contests

44% in 15 games since 12/1

And 42% for the year

He needs to shoot more. Jose Herb Naji shouldn’t shoot unless it’s at the rim

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Exactly, and I've legit never seen one single post complaining about it in the same way people's lose their shite when CJ does it, even when CJ has lines like 31/6/7 with 2 turnovers. In those games, the game thread still sees CJ get more hate than any other player.

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Zion's not a good dribbler. He needs to work on that.

CJ does NOT need to work on not throwing lazy arse passes. That's not a skill. It's just LAZY.

Again, I'm not complaining about when he does too much with the ball.

It's the dribbling up the court and carelessly toss a half speed pass that's easily intercepted turnovers that drive me nuts.

It's like this: Which turnover is worse - Your PG is trying to push the pace and gets too deep into the pain with nowhere to go and turns it over 1-2 times a game being too aggressive

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Your PG continues to get picked clean by Jose's corner hiding trick.

One is completely preventable if you simply pay attention. The other is just basketball.

No one is whining about CJ's just basketball plays.

It's shite where he literally is not even defended tightly and throws a lazy pass that shouldn't be a turnover 99 percent of the time if any effort at all is used to pass the ball. These are not hard passes.

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I'll probably get crucified for this... We need a real point guard


I don't disagree.

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I feel the same. Point Zion is a personnel matchup thing that my hope is we learn to use as little as possible.

First of all because come playoff time it's not going to work and we need to work to improve the things that will.

Secondly you gonna wear Zion out if you run that the majority of the time he's out there.

A true point guard would really help and I love Jose but not sure he's the full time answer there. Love him coming off the bench and bringing his energy.

That's the exact issue with Murphy. He's not shooting it frequently enough. He waits for the most optimal look to launch his shot.

We don't need him to run off the three point line right now. We need him to launch as many thees as possible off the catch with any kind of daylight. I don't care if he misses, he needs to keep launching them as he's a much better option than Naji, Herb, or even Jose. Let Herb and Naji mindlessly dive to the basket. We don't need Trey doing it if he's the only credible shooter on the court outside of CJ.

There's no reason why he isn't taking 8-10 a game with the absence of BI.