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Brian Windhorst - Pels may be BUYING, not selling at deadline
Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:48 am
Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:48 am
quote:
"Right now, my feel on the Pelicans is that they're actually looking to acquire another veteran as opposed to selling off a veteran. If anything, the Pelicans have seen what a big difference it made to get Derrick Favors back and they think if they could get another veteran into their rotation, that it may even help them more." "I sense from the Pelicans they may be buyers."
From Brian Windhorst’s podcast
LINK
I’m not a fan of Windhorst but he makes a good point, the organization has not given us any indication that they will tank, and we know Gayle wants us to compete
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:49 am to Upperdecker
It’s my opinion that Griffin should be buying talent, not veterans. This team is not ready to win big. I don’t want more Dell Demps mediocrity by continually acquiring players without a real chance of winning big. We need to think long term, not short term. The only reason I’d think short term is if you’re scared you’ll lose the fan base by not competing. But with Zion you’ve bought yourself a couple years of not competing IMO
Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:52 am to Upperdecker
I mean there are a few vets who could make a difference and do both.
Miller+Williams+2 2nds
for
Covington
for example
Miller+Williams+2 2nds
for
Covington
for example
Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:54 am to Upperdecker
I think it’s more of a belief in “raising the kids” in a good environment. It’s a fine line to walk because if you trade away all vets and lose too much, then you end up affecting the young guys. You want to win with them, not “win now” sacrificing the future type moves, but more like moving Melli or Miller and a second or two or another vet big who can help with the growth of Zion/Hayes.
We already have a ton of youth plus Didi and lots of future seconds. Adding another vet to replace Jah, Miller, Melli, Frank doesn’t compromise the future. We shouldn’t and won’t be tanking considering this weak draft and the strength of our young core.
We already have a ton of youth plus Didi and lots of future seconds. Adding another vet to replace Jah, Miller, Melli, Frank doesn’t compromise the future. We shouldn’t and won’t be tanking considering this weak draft and the strength of our young core.
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:55 am to Upperdecker
quote:
It’s my opinion that Griffin should be buying talent, not veterans.
I think this is taking Windhorst a little bit too literally. Acquiring a guy like RoCo can lead to success both in the short term and the long term
Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:58 am to htran90
A couple of y’all have said RoCo but he’s gonna get a high price, something we probably can’t afford. Sixers def want him and probably Lakers too, among other teams. He’s one of the best available vets right now
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:00 pm to Upperdecker
Buy?
At what price?
This idea suggests pels mgmt is scared jrue is going to be a while.
Im sure a solid vet would improve bench. Naw/hayes both lacking key elements of game.
I guess mgmt wants zion to join a solid situation.
I just hope the price makes sense.
The pels are not making playoffs.
Ill stop posting in pels board for a year if pels make playoffs.
At what price?
This idea suggests pels mgmt is scared jrue is going to be a while.
Im sure a solid vet would improve bench. Naw/hayes both lacking key elements of game.
I guess mgmt wants zion to join a solid situation.
I just hope the price makes sense.
The pels are not making playoffs.
Ill stop posting in pels board for a year if pels make playoffs.
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:29 pm to CelticDog
I agree. We should not be looking at high price vets to compete. If it’s low price vets to teach younger players, sure go ahead. But it’s gotta make sense with our long term plan
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:34 pm to htran90
quote:
Miller+Williams+2 2nds
for
Covington
That's not enough for him. He's probably the most sought after trade target right now that everyone knows is available.
If we are going to add someone, it'll be someone we can get sending out Miller+ expirings and our Cleveland or Washinton 2nds, i would think, and it would be for someone who can backup Zion at the 4.
Miller to Miami straight up for Olynyk or Leonard gets Miami out the tax.
Miller/Melli and a 2nd for Marcus Morris, who as i alluded to a few weeks ago is shooting 47% from 3 on almost 6 attempts a game. Probably need to throw a 2nd or two at them for him.
Derrick Rose is still playing well. Makes the same as Miller. I'm sure Clevelands 2 2nds would be enough. Detroit isn't looking to win anymore. Griffin is probably done for the year and they been looking to move Drummond.
Gallinari is probably still available. Miller/Moore/Melli would work, although i'm sure they want Clevelands picks at a minimum. OKC is just barely in the tax, so they will do something.
John Henson in Cleveland makes Miller money.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:43 pm to htran90
Man gtfoh with this lmaoooo. I know this was a example but can it be more realistic? I'm sure they would at least want one of our future first for Roco
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:46 pm to Upperdecker
quote:PRetty sure the Lakers and 76ers will be over the cap and won't be able to offer him much.
A couple of y’all have said RoCo but he’s gonna get a high price, something we probably can’t afford. Sixers def want him and probably Lakers too, among other teams. He’s one of the best available vets right now
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:52 pm to Upperdecker
Hmm this sounds more like wed looking at someone like iguadola which I'd be down with
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:53 pm to Upperdecker
Neither of those 2 really have any assets to send out..
Minnesota will want draft picks
Minnesota will want draft picks
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:56 pm to shel311
Sixers can move salary to make it work. The issue is they’d probably have to include picks to maintain the roster pieces they want, and their picks are gonna be late and not worth much. I’m just saying a lot of contenders will be in the market for RoCo, and we’ll have to outbid them. We shouldn’t
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:57 pm to Soggymoss
Everyone will want RoCo. There’s gonna be a bidding war, and we should not be in a bidding war for a veteran
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:59 pm to Upperdecker
Miller, Frank our 2nd, Milwaukee 2nd, and our lottery protected 1st would be a better bid than most could put, amd it's not giving up too much for him, especially on his deal
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 1/10/20 at 1:10 pm to Upperdecker
My first thought was the Dell Demps syndrome, but I have to believe that Griff, based on his rep and track record, has more foresight than that.
Right???
Right???
Posted on 1/10/20 at 1:16 pm to VOR
If the Kings are dumping, something like Miller and a 2nd for Ariza could fortify the bench.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 1:16 pm to Silverfoxx
It's just an example, obviously. But regardless of Lakers or Philly what assets do they have? Kuzma?
High 2nds have more value than late 1sts, we see it all the time when it comes down to penny pinching as well.
High 2nds have more value than late 1sts, we see it all the time when it comes down to penny pinching as well.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 1:18 pm to Soggymoss
That’s not much value
A Sixers trade would include Matisse Thybulle probably
The Warriors could trade Deangelo Russell for RoCo and some picks
Lakers could include Kuzma
Then there’s other teams that are actively trying to get him but would have to work 3 team deals like the Rockets
A Sixers trade would include Matisse Thybulle probably
The Warriors could trade Deangelo Russell for RoCo and some picks
Lakers could include Kuzma
Then there’s other teams that are actively trying to get him but would have to work 3 team deals like the Rockets
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