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BI is a game winner. Not a championship winner

Posted on 4/12/23 at 10:35 pm
Posted by Grad92
Member since Feb 2023
1027 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 10:35 pm
I’ve had it with our offense running through him.
Posted by kpop1
Member since Jan 2018
1675 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 10:41 pm to
We are fighting hard in the most meaningful game of our year, and that is what you post?!!

Maybe try again next year to find a team you can enjoy.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112853 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 10:42 pm to
Your overall point is correct, he's not leading to title contention as a #1 but he's been uber clutch for over a month now.
Posted by Grad92
Member since Feb 2023
1027 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 11:46 pm to
He will win you a few games here and there but that’s it
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
30442 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 11:48 pm to
BI as a #2 is incredible.

Sadly we need him to be our number 1 because a certain player doesn't feel like himself
Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 11:49 pm to
BI did great. He’s literally been in a headlock the last 10 games. frick the officiating in this game especially.
Posted by Marrero
Member since Dec 2021
966 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 11:50 pm to
His play style won’t win he works to hard for his points need fatboy types who get easy buckets
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 11:52 pm to
quote:

Your overall point is correct, he's not leading to title contention as a #1 but he's been uber clutch for over a month no


This isn’t correct. He’s been producing points at an MVP level post ASB.

It’s a lost season, but he’s the top playmaker on this team.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112853 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 11:54 pm to
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This isn’t correct. He’s been producing points at an MVP level post ASB.
Did he lead us to being a title contender that I missed this season?

Until he does, you simply can't argue that is incorrect.
Posted by Grad92
Member since Feb 2023
1027 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 11:55 pm to
Points alone don’t win championships
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
27918 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 11:56 pm to
quote:

he’s the top playmaker on this team.

pretty low fricking bar, there, chief
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 12:02 am to
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Did he lead us to being a title contender that I missed this season? Until he does, you simply can't argue that is incorrect.


This is such a silly counter and here’s why...

But to my point
quote:

Among all players who initiated at least 20 pick-and-rolls per game over the last five weeks of the regular season, only five generated more than Ingram’s 1.19 points per direct play.


The Ringer did a write up today on him. He’s our best passer, by far, and is an elite scorer.

This particular roster, for the second straight postseason, doesn’t have a power forward nor any rim protection.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112853 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 12:05 am to
He's an awesome player.

He will also never lead teams to title contention as a #1

Both can be true, and they both are true in this case.

Not sure how much more of a sample size you need on that, we're I believe 7 years in.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4453 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 12:08 am to
He’s not a number 1, I don’t think anyone is arguing that but who the hell else were we supposed to run the offense through
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112853 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 12:10 am to
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He’s not a number 1, I don’t think anyone is arguing that
Oh, the 1 dude is absolutely arguing that lol.
quote:

but who the hell else were we supposed to run the offense through
Certainly. We're severely limited on offensive options who can get you a bucket when you consider CJ sucked when injured and we seem to not care about Val even when he's dominating.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 12:10 am to
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Not sure how much more of a sample size you need on that, we're I believe 7 years in.


Dude tied the game and his #2 gave it away, thumb injury or not.

Kobe didn’t win as a #1 until…year 11?
This post was edited on 4/13/23 at 12:12 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112853 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 12:12 am to
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Dude tied the game and his #2 gave it away, thumb injury or not.
So to confirm, your reply to me saying BI isn't that #1 who will get you in title contention is to point out that BI led us to a tie game in the final minute of an elimination game at home against the 40-42 10th seed?

Well then...
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 12:14 am to
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So to confirm, your reply to me saying BI isn't that #1 who will get you in title contention is to point out that BI led us to a tie game in the final minute of an elimination game at home against the 40-42 10th seed? Well then...


To confirm, BI played lights out in game 82 & very well in 83 when his sidekick shite the bed in game 82 & 83?

Kobe didn’t win as #1 until 2009. So year 7 is meaningless. Most greats don’t win until age 28. BI is 25.
This post was edited on 4/13/23 at 12:15 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112853 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 12:16 am to
Name the last team to win a title whose best player wasn't as good as BI...
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56550 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 12:16 am to
He’s not the problem
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