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re: Alexxis or Aleksej Pokuseuski
Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:15 pm to supe12sta12z
Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:15 pm to supe12sta12z
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Team isn’t deep enough to be making that type of pick with a lottery selection.
This team should be focused on acquiring assets we can use to turn into a contender 3 or 4 years from now and this kid has the potential to grow into as big of an asset as any in this class.
There's a risk/reward with picking him but I think it's a justified one.
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Posted on 8/20/20 at 9:28 pm to southdowns84
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There's a risk/reward with picking him but I think it's a justified one.
The risk of the 13 pick isn't the same risk of a top 5 pick. He may be a decent pick, but there will be other options with upside. It will be interesting to see which direction they go.
This post was edited on 8/20/20 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 8/20/20 at 11:12 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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The risk of the 13 pick isn't the same risk of a top 5 pick. He may be a decent pick, but there will be other options with upside. It will be interesting to see which direction they go.
I was speaking towards what we might do with the 13th pick. There will probably be dozens of guys available at 13 that end up being better than him but it’s hard to imagine any of them being good enough to matter in the long run.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 8:06 am to Fun Bunch
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That isn't generally how it works. If you want him, take him.
Danny Ainge in 2017 says hello.
It's definitely a legitamite tactic and worked brilliantly for the Cs
I think this guy is fools gold playing against mediocre opposition
This post was edited on 8/21/20 at 8:08 am
Posted on 8/21/20 at 3:37 pm to Earthquake
I would not use our top pick on this guy, but if could package together our 2nd round picks and move into the 20 to 25 range, i would take him in a heartbeat.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 3:39 pm to Earthquake
Spurs probably take him at 11 
Posted on 8/21/20 at 3:46 pm to Fun Bunch
I’m working from on my big man big board and I watched a lot of Aleksej today. I think he has a lot of potential, but I wouldn’t pick him at 13. Maybe somewhere around 20ish.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 7:17 pm to southdowns84
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it’s hard to imagine any of them being good enough to matter in the long run.
I want you to think about this draft evaluation:
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- he doesn't fare very well from a purely statistical standpoint. His profile strongly indicates that he's destined to play a complimentary role in the NBA, at least in his first few seasons. XXXX's 0.889 points per possession overall ranks third worst of the 17 wings we evaluated, and his adjusted field goal percentage of 46.3% ranks dead last, a strong illustration of his scoring woes.
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In the half-court, XXXX ranks seventh of all wings in the percentage of his possessions coming from isolations, at 15%. His .721 PPP on these possessions ranks 15th, indicating that he struggled to create shots effectively for himself last season. He was unable to get to the free throw line consistently (11.3%, 12th) for many of these same reasons, and did not finish around the basket at a high rate, where his 1.069 PPS ranked 13th.
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XXXX is not only an average ball-handler, but he also struggles to make shots consistently from beyond the arc. His 0.743 points per shots on jumpers ranks 16th of 17 in the class, where he shot an abysmal 31% from the field. His struggles extend both to his catch and shoot jumpers (32%) and pull-ups (28%).
That draft evaluation was for the guy picked 15th in the 2011 draft, five spots behind Jimmer Fredette. That guy won a Finals MVP in his third season.
The point is that you really just don't know. Guys develop their games and improve (sometimes quickly and dramatically) in ways that were unimaginable at the time of the draft.
This post was edited on 8/21/20 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 8/21/20 at 8:58 pm to GOP_Tiger
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That draft evaluation was for the guy picked 15th in the 2011 draft, five spots behind Jimmer Fredette. That guy won a Finals MVP in his third season.
The point is that you really just don't know. Guys develop their games and improve (sometimes quickly and dramatically) in ways that were unimaginable at the time of the draft.
I’m not dismissing the notion entirely, I’m just saying I don’t thing it’s likely.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 9:03 pm to southdowns84
We won't be able to judge this draft until after the fact. Will it be like the 2013 draft that looked terrible going in but gave us CJ McCollum, Giannis and Gobert at 10 or later? Or will it be like the Austin Rivers dilemma we faced, where everyone after Drummond at 9 sucked until the 2nd round gave us Draymond & Middleton?
This post was edited on 8/21/20 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 8/21/20 at 9:03 pm to GOP_Tiger
I literally just randomly went to see Kawhi’s scouting report 5 minutes ago before seeing this. Ha weird
Posted on 8/21/20 at 9:08 pm to TigerinATL
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We won't be able to judge this draft until after the fact. Will it be like the 2013 draft that looked terrible going in but gave us CJ McCollum, Giannis and Gobert at 10 or later? Or will it be like the Austin Rivers dilemma we faced, where everyone after Drummond at 9 sucked until the 2nd round gave us Draymond & Middleton?
I agree with that.
Look, if Langdon thinks he’s found another Kawhi, by all means we should take him. If he doesn’t and wants to swing for the fences, I’m ok with taking Poku. That’s all I’m saying.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 9:27 pm to southdowns84
Look at history. Poku is not a swing for the fences. Kukoc, Mirotic, Saric, all were/are role playing starters more or less. If he were a Luka/The Next Dirk we'd be talking about him as a top 5ish pick, especially in a weak draft. If we were to draft him it'd be almost more as a financial instrument rather than for upside. You don't drive him off the lot for 2 years so he doesn't lose value.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 9:41 pm to TigerinATL
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Look at history.
There’s never been any point in history that’s valued a 7 footer that can shoot more than now.
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If we were to draft him it'd be almost more as a financial instrument rather than for upside
These things aren’t mutually exclusive. In fact, I think they actually fit nicely together with what we’re trying to accomplish.
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