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After 3 Dozen Games
Posted on 12/31/17 at 11:20 am
Posted on 12/31/17 at 11:20 am
We sit at 18-18, the Pels currently are the 8th seed in the West. Before the season began, most of us would be happy with our record and standing at this point. Not this fan-base. Instead of trying to improve on the positives, they are ready to burn everything down again. They pride themselves on deflating acts like: let's make a full page of 'fire coach' threads. This site has become the Pelican's Report part 2.
What exactly has Gentry done to be fired? We are currently in the playoffs. AD and Boogie are both playing at All-Star levels. Both players seem to like their coach. Gentry moved Holiday to SG, which has been a success. He is getting more than anyone expected out of Moore, Rondo, and Miller.
Most people blast Gentry on his win-loss percentage (.461); one of the main people they want to replace him with is Calipari, who only has a .391 winning percentage. He hasn't coached in the NBA since 1999, when he lasted 20 games after a 3-17 record. Calipari routinely is out-coached on the college level, as his team always has premium talent. He is a great judge of talent. I would love to have him part of the Pels; as GM and Director of Operations, not coach.
What the main problem with this team is: a lack of depth, and that is killing us. It's not a good strategy to go big, if you plan to burn them out with excessive minutes. AD and Boogie currently rank 15 and 16 in minutes played per game; this doesn't seem well thought out, considering one player is fragile and the other is huge. The fans complain about Boogie's late game turnovers; guess what, he's gassed by this stage of the game. The one player I hope we trade for is Mirotic.
Nelson has a high IQ and was a good addition to the team, he definitely is an upgrade over Crawford (who is no longer in the league); he shouldn't be in the rotation, he should be the teams 5th guard. Let's not forget, he's only 6' and is 35. The Pels need a player like Tyreke or Lou Williams in Nelson's role.
I understand the fans frustrations, but things could be worse. At least the team is competitive and playing an entertaining style. Gentry has the 6 or 7 NBA caliber rotational players that's on the team playing up to their capabilities; the team badly needs 2 more solid players, or risk burnout.
What exactly has Gentry done to be fired? We are currently in the playoffs. AD and Boogie are both playing at All-Star levels. Both players seem to like their coach. Gentry moved Holiday to SG, which has been a success. He is getting more than anyone expected out of Moore, Rondo, and Miller.
Most people blast Gentry on his win-loss percentage (.461); one of the main people they want to replace him with is Calipari, who only has a .391 winning percentage. He hasn't coached in the NBA since 1999, when he lasted 20 games after a 3-17 record. Calipari routinely is out-coached on the college level, as his team always has premium talent. He is a great judge of talent. I would love to have him part of the Pels; as GM and Director of Operations, not coach.
What the main problem with this team is: a lack of depth, and that is killing us. It's not a good strategy to go big, if you plan to burn them out with excessive minutes. AD and Boogie currently rank 15 and 16 in minutes played per game; this doesn't seem well thought out, considering one player is fragile and the other is huge. The fans complain about Boogie's late game turnovers; guess what, he's gassed by this stage of the game. The one player I hope we trade for is Mirotic.
Nelson has a high IQ and was a good addition to the team, he definitely is an upgrade over Crawford (who is no longer in the league); he shouldn't be in the rotation, he should be the teams 5th guard. Let's not forget, he's only 6' and is 35. The Pels need a player like Tyreke or Lou Williams in Nelson's role.
I understand the fans frustrations, but things could be worse. At least the team is competitive and playing an entertaining style. Gentry has the 6 or 7 NBA caliber rotational players that's on the team playing up to their capabilities; the team badly needs 2 more solid players, or risk burnout.
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Posted on 12/31/17 at 11:40 am to PelicansBay
People claim that bad losses are the problem, as if you swap out wins against the Spurs and Cavs with losses against the Kings and Mavs they'd be happy. I call bullshite on that. People have been ready to fire Gentry from the moment he got hired. They've never had faith in him and never will. And that's fine, but people need to realize that it's still December. You can't actually replace him with a new coach for 5-6 more months so firing him only means the same staff has to do the same work down a person. It's not like the team has tuned him out, so Gentry leaving won't be addition by subtraction. He has an OC and DC, so I'm not sure what people think will change for the better if Erman becomes interim HC.
Posted on 12/31/17 at 11:43 am to TigerinATL
We've blown big leads and have lost games to teams we have no business losing to. Team doesn't play with consistent effort.
I guess the biggest issue is that we see how good this team can be, so when you lose two in a row at home to bad teams it only infuriates us as a fan base further.
I guess the biggest issue is that we see how good this team can be, so when you lose two in a row at home to bad teams it only infuriates us as a fan base further.
Posted on 12/31/17 at 11:51 am to whatiknowsofar
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We've blown big leads and have lost games to teams we have no business losing to. Team doesn't play with consistent effort.
Don't confuse a tired team with a team not showing effort.
Posted on 12/31/17 at 11:53 am to PelicansBay
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Before the season began, most of us would be happy with our record and standing at this point.
This is where I stopped reading.
Posted on 12/31/17 at 11:55 am to BigPerm30
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This is where I stopped reading.
If you stopped reading, why did your silly arse reply? Typical.
Posted on 12/31/17 at 11:58 am to whatiknowsofar
This team isn't living up to it's potential, but Interim HC Erman isn't going to fix that. You also have to realize that the number of impact coaches in this league is minimal. Give me a below average coach like Gentry with a top OC/DC before you give me a Marc Jackson or Monty that might be a little better than Gentry on their own but doesn't want to trust top talent on their staff.
People want change for the sake of change, what you really want though is productive change. Look at the Saints, they could have fired Loomis a few years ago and brought in a completely new GM, that would have made a lot of people very happy, at least initially. Instead they brought in Ireland and it took a few years to see it pay off, but I'd say most people are pleased with the results.
I'm not saying we shouldn't replace Gentry, I'm just saying Gentry isn't the only piece that gets replaced with a coaching change and you want the new coaching staff to actually be a better fit than the current one. You also need a coaching staff that fits the philosophy of the GM, who most of us are done with so, oh yeah, maybe we should replace the GM before we run the coach out of town with our torches and pitch forks. Demps hiring Gentry basically got him an extension as long as Gentry was able to keep his job. Do we really want to let Demps hire a new coach and get a new lease on life.
People want change for the sake of change, what you really want though is productive change. Look at the Saints, they could have fired Loomis a few years ago and brought in a completely new GM, that would have made a lot of people very happy, at least initially. Instead they brought in Ireland and it took a few years to see it pay off, but I'd say most people are pleased with the results.
I'm not saying we shouldn't replace Gentry, I'm just saying Gentry isn't the only piece that gets replaced with a coaching change and you want the new coaching staff to actually be a better fit than the current one. You also need a coaching staff that fits the philosophy of the GM, who most of us are done with so, oh yeah, maybe we should replace the GM before we run the coach out of town with our torches and pitch forks. Demps hiring Gentry basically got him an extension as long as Gentry was able to keep his job. Do we really want to let Demps hire a new coach and get a new lease on life.
Posted on 12/31/17 at 12:15 pm to BigPerm30
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This is where I stopped reading
How did you figure this team would be much better than they were last year post Boogie trade? The addition of Rondo and Ian Clark? The resigning of Jrue and Cunningham? We already knew Solomon Hill was going to miss significant time. I’m more frustrated that we’ve seen glimpses of how dangerous this team can be then the next night it’s like the wheels fall off. The inconsistency is maddening.
Posted on 12/31/17 at 12:20 pm to TigerinATL
This team is stuck in mediocrity and going no where. With the players we have 18-18 and the 8th seed is not acceptable. And it's damn sure nothing to be proud of. We lost to two teams that came in a combined 5-26 on the road this season, on our home floor, on back to back nights. Completely pathetic and embarrassing.
Gentry isn't the only person to blame, but he is a part of the problem. He's not going to be let go in season, but there's absolutely no sell for him or Demps to be back next year. This franchise needs a complete overhaul, and nobody should be safe.
Gentry isn't the only person to blame, but he is a part of the problem. He's not going to be let go in season, but there's absolutely no sell for him or Demps to be back next year. This franchise needs a complete overhaul, and nobody should be safe.
Posted on 12/31/17 at 12:22 pm to TigerinATL
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This team isn't living up to it's potential, but Interim HC Erman isn't going to fix that.
100% agree.
If there is change at all up top it needs to take place after this season with a complete overhaul. Anyone not named Anthony Davis should be in play for trades, etc...
I also am holding out a very small amount of hope that this team does figure it out. We've gone ice cold from 3 and I think that will change. I also refuse to believe that our defense won't improve, but a lot of that is going to have to come from Al changing his rotations. This is a 5 seed team, but we will struggle to make the playoffs unless some of those things change.
Posted on 12/31/17 at 12:22 pm to TigerinATL
Here's a novel idea for this fan-base: the team is trending in the right direction, chill the fukk out. Let Gentry and Dell do their jobs this year. Gentry has the players on the roster playing well, the team actually has an identity now. The players seem to like playing with each other.
Dell is two players away from this team being a finished product. Let him finish what he started. He has a decent track record for acquiring premium talent in their prime (Boogie and Holiday). He knows Nelson shouldn't be in the rotation, that's probably why we were trying to trade for Reggie Jackson.
The Pels need a big off the bench that is a double digit scoring threat. None of our bench players scare anybody, you don't have to game-plan for any of them. You go from the best PF and C in the league to Cunningham when subs come in. See the problem?
Dell is two players away from this team being a finished product. Let him finish what he started. He has a decent track record for acquiring premium talent in their prime (Boogie and Holiday). He knows Nelson shouldn't be in the rotation, that's probably why we were trying to trade for Reggie Jackson.
The Pels need a big off the bench that is a double digit scoring threat. None of our bench players scare anybody, you don't have to game-plan for any of them. You go from the best PF and C in the league to Cunningham when subs come in. See the problem?
Posted on 12/31/17 at 12:22 pm to PelicansBay
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Don't confuse a tired team with a team not showing effort.
We damn sure weren't tired against the mavs.
Posted on 12/31/17 at 12:31 pm to whatiknowsofar
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We damn sure weren't tired against the mavs.
Are you talking about when AD and Boogie logged 42 and 44 minutes? Are you talking about the game Nelson played 21 minutes (including the 4th)? Are you talking about the game we got 10 points total from the bench?
Posted on 12/31/17 at 12:33 pm to PelicansBay
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Are you talking about when AD and Boogie logged 42 and 44 minutes? Are you talking about the game Nelson played 21 minutes (including the 4th)? Are you talking about the game we got 10 points total from the bench?
Uh yeah. We had two days off to be ready to beat them. Were we tired in the first half when we dug ourselves a 20 pt deficit?
Posted on 12/31/17 at 12:50 pm to whatiknowsofar
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Uh yeah. We had two days off to be ready to beat them. Were we tired in the first half when we dug ourselves a 20 pt deficit?
That's the nature of basketball, in case you're not familiar. We have no depth. Add Lou Williams and Mirotic to this team and lose like this, then you have a reason to call for the coach's head.
This post was edited on 12/31/17 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 12/31/17 at 12:55 pm to PelicansBay
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That's the nature of basketball, in case you're not familiar.
digging a 20pt deficit in the 1st half for yourself against one of the worst road teams in the league is the "nature of basketball"?
Posted on 12/31/17 at 1:05 pm to whatiknowsofar
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digging a 20pt deficit in the 1st half for yourself against one of the worst road teams in the league is the "nature of basketball"?
Are you having difficulties comprehending? My answer was 'yes'. Dallas is on a three game winning streak (including two on the road), they have won 4 of their last 6. They beat Toronto to start the streak. Dennis Smith Jr's hip is better. We came out flat against a streaking team, shite happens. That's the nature of basketball.
This post was edited on 12/31/17 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 12/31/17 at 1:44 pm to PelicansBay
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PelicansBay
Alvin?
Posted on 12/31/17 at 2:31 pm to Broski
I'm kind of shocked by the amount of people who think what this team has done this season is acceptable or that they're headed in the right direction. Seriously, get your heads out of your asses. It's ok to be a fan, but atleast be realistic.
Posted on 12/31/17 at 2:45 pm to CP3forMVP
8th seed isn’t good enough nor should it be acceptable
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