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(16-9) since losing Boogie
Posted on 3/23/18 at 6:41 am
Posted on 3/23/18 at 6:41 am
10-game win streak
current 4-game win streak with a classic Rondo showing up just in time for the playoffs.
So, I agree that Harden has earned the MVP and all, but AD has surely given him a push, especially during the last 25 games.
AD is solidly in 2nd place IMO. I think that would make his 2nd runner up finish..??
1st team All-NBA...again.
current 4-game win streak with a classic Rondo showing up just in time for the playoffs.
So, I agree that Harden has earned the MVP and all, but AD has surely given him a push, especially during the last 25 games.
AD is solidly in 2nd place IMO. I think that would make his 2nd runner up finish..??
1st team All-NBA...again.
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 8:08 am
Posted on 3/23/18 at 7:46 am to jptiger2009
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Posted on 3/23/18 at 7:50 am to msutiger
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How great is it that our superstar can dominate a game on his own without relying on the refs
As much as I dislike Harden, he can dominate a game without relying on the refs. That is what is so frustrating about his style of play. He can dominate without resorting to the cheap tricks.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 7:52 am to NOFOX
Hell is playing one on one with Harden and he gets to call his own fouls.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 7:55 am to NOFOX
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He can dominate without resorting to the cheap tricks
Harden is surely a dominant player. He's the greatest euro-style player with American athleticism if that makes sense. Hardin is the best Manu Ginobili there ever will be.
He's also mastered the "Lebron taking a ref to the sideline" tho...
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 8:08 am
Posted on 3/23/18 at 7:58 am to jptiger2009
Harden is great, but lets not act like the refs aren't a huge part of his success...that dude should have to wear a neck brace for the amount of whiplash he "receives" from the BS bumps he receives!
Posted on 3/23/18 at 8:02 am to saints5021
That late 4-point foul called Saturday night on Jrue was one of the worst calls I've seen in a long time.
Like, Jrue took the extra precaution by actually having one hand on his own chest while defending Harden.
Like, Jrue took the extra precaution by actually having one hand on his own chest while defending Harden.
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 8:09 am
Posted on 3/23/18 at 8:55 am to jptiger2009
Worst foul of that game was the foul in the loose ball that cost us the possession to take control, but that 4pt foul was pretty chicken shite too.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:01 am to saints5021
part of his genius is the way he moves and draws contact. guys reach or bump in ways that make it obvious there was a foul. Harden has a unique and special ability to consistently wrongfoot defenders in almost any situation
Posted on 3/23/18 at 10:01 am to saints5021
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Harden is great, but lets not act like the refs aren't a huge part of his success...that dude should have to wear a neck brace for the amount of whiplash he "receives" from the BS bumps he receives!
He is one of the best and most crafty scorers regardless of the calls. Even if you halve his FTA's, he would still be averaging over 26 ppg. He has one of the best crossovers in the game, the best eurostep, is elite finishing at the rim, and is an underrated passer/rebounder. It is damn near impossible to stay in front of him and even if you do he has that stepback 3 off the dribble.
I absolutely despise his play and think his foul-seeking/initiating (even if it is a skill in its own right) is terrible for the game and needs to be addressed by the refs/league. However the guy is still incredibly skilled and would be successful if he got calls in line with the average starting guard.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 3:00 pm to jptiger2009
The team is better without Boogie.
He’s not going to be worth the $30+ million per year y’all are going to pay him.
He’s not going to be worth the $30+ million per year y’all are going to pay him.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 3:03 pm to PrimeTime Money
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The team is better without Boogie.
Not really a whole lot of evidence to support that. He didn't get to play with healthy Rondo a lot or with Niko and emeka, hell even ian Clark and diallo weren't getting the playing time they are now. Adding boogie into this rotation would look a lot better than the one at the beginning of the year.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 3:06 pm to PrimeTime Money
Prime I like you, you’re at least the rational Rockets fan. But you can’t honestly believe this.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 3:11 pm to DeionDeion
I honestly do. I never liked the Boogie signing from the start, and this run y’all are on without him only strengthens my original opinion.
Y’all would be better served to spend $35 million per year elsewhere.
Boogie is a great individual player but he does not help teams win.
Y’all would be better served to spend $35 million per year elsewhere.
Boogie is a great individual player but he does not help teams win.
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 3/23/18 at 3:38 pm to PrimeTime Money
they fit better without Cousins. roles are more easily defined, they play faster, and Davis plays a lot more at the 5, which is always good.
Net Ratings are the same w/ and w/o Cousins. clutch performance, which may be due to no Cousins or just be entirely random, has gone through the roof since 1/27
the ceiling w/ Cousins is higher. they looked to be starting to put it together with him as the injury came. Davis wants him here and Davis doesn't want to play the 5 this much.
Bringing him back is the right call, even if the risk is great. hopefully less than a max, but we'll see
Net Ratings are the same w/ and w/o Cousins. clutch performance, which may be due to no Cousins or just be entirely random, has gone through the roof since 1/27
the ceiling w/ Cousins is higher. they looked to be starting to put it together with him as the injury came. Davis wants him here and Davis doesn't want to play the 5 this much.
Bringing him back is the right call, even if the risk is great. hopefully less than a max, but we'll see
Posted on 3/23/18 at 3:39 pm to NOFOX
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As much as I dislike Harden, he can dominate a game without relying on the refs. That is what is so frustrating about his style of play. He can dominate without resorting to the cheap tricks.
Wait...what? Are you serious? That’s his offense. His “dominating without resorting to cheap tricks” is because touching him in any way warrants a shooting foul.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 3:40 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Y’all would be better served to spend $35 million per year elsewhere.
We can't spend 35 million. We have his bird rights so that's why we can go that high.
You really think we can get a player(s) that can replace what he can do? Who is willing to come to NOLA and do that?
Posted on 3/23/18 at 3:47 pm to PrimeTime Money
I disagree. Even though he was with us after the ASB last season, because of all the changes in scheme, change in personnel, and injuries the team was still learning their roles and how to play with each other for most of the year. What you’re seeing now, is that roles are much more easily defined, but that doesn’t mean we are better. Yes he turns the ball over a lot and yes he’s a chunker but he was playing incredible basketball before he went down. Hustling, playing defense, and buying into the up tempo pace.
Not to mention Jrue and AD weren’t playing like this when Boogie was healthy. I don’t think Boogie was holding them back, I just think they deferred to Boogie (my fear is that they defer back to him when he comes back)
And on top of it all we beat the best team in the NBA. Call it a fluke if you want, but we don’t come close against Houston without Boogie. We have a much higher floor and higher ceiling with Boogie.
Not to mention Jrue and AD weren’t playing like this when Boogie was healthy. I don’t think Boogie was holding them back, I just think they deferred to Boogie (my fear is that they defer back to him when he comes back)
And on top of it all we beat the best team in the NBA. Call it a fluke if you want, but we don’t come close against Houston without Boogie. We have a much higher floor and higher ceiling with Boogie.
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 3/23/18 at 3:50 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Boogie is a great individual player but he does not help teams win.
Disagree, we were on pace for a 46 win team with him this year, 12 more wins than last year. There's a learning curve with him (or any high usage player like him) and trying to get jrue-AD-Cousins to work well together took time.
He has to play within the system so that might be a better argument that he NEEDS to do that for a team to contend, but the recent winning (16-9) is more indicative of AD digging deep and dominating than cousins being out. The issue is, he's also playing 36.7 minutes during that span with a substantially higher USG% as well which is not sustainable over a full season at this pace IMHO.
During the 25 games, he's played 24 and averaged:
52.0/33.8/85.6 shooting
12.4 RPG, 2.0 AST, 2.0 SPG, 3.0 BPG, 2.6 TOV, 31.2 PPG
That's a ridiculous tear, MVP caliber if that was over a full season.
Like I said in another thread, agreed that if we could have 30+ million for an elite caliber wing, nobody would deny that'd be SUBSTANTIALLY better $ spent, but there's no wing available. We're stuck with Cousins because there's no other option.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 3:54 pm to DeionDeion
quote:There is a reason why this is the case. The team with Boogie is a wash at best.
Not to mention Jrue and AD weren’t playing like this when Boogie was healthy. I don’t think Boogie was holding them back, I just think they deferred to Boogie.
For $35 million he better be putting the team in championship contention. And I don't think he is the guy to do that.
I'm not a GM and I don't know what the best course of action is to get a good player to join the Pels, but Boogie is not the guy in my opinion.
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