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re: working with a producer to make your song sound cleaner/more professional/better arranged?
Posted on 9/13/23 at 4:21 pm to gsvar2004
Posted on 9/13/23 at 4:21 pm to gsvar2004
If going a professional route, You should seek out professionals. Luckily the ones worth a shite are usually credited. May cost you, but you pay for results.
Mixing and mastering are also different.
But honestly,..nowadays..its easier now than ever before for doingnsome things on your own. You need some research, software and youtube instructionals to improve on your own mixes. It's way easier to hire someone who knows 100% what they are doing..but being a jack of all trades master of nothing is helpful in 2023.
Some of the EZMix software line
Those can help with people looking to not have to get a Phd in audio engineering
Mixing and mastering are also different.
But honestly,..nowadays..its easier now than ever before for doingnsome things on your own. You need some research, software and youtube instructionals to improve on your own mixes. It's way easier to hire someone who knows 100% what they are doing..but being a jack of all trades master of nothing is helpful in 2023.
Some of the EZMix software line
Those can help with people looking to not have to get a Phd in audio engineering
This post was edited on 9/13/23 at 6:27 pm
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Posted on 9/13/23 at 8:22 pm to SEClint
thanks, my very rough "scratch" recordings are with a 13 year old MacBook pro, a focusrite solo, my acoustic guitar, and ableton live lite lol. im learning but its only gonna get so good with me basically recording in my kitchen while my kids are at cheerleading in the evening. im willing and ready to learn all i can. but if it generates any buzz at all, ill either hire a demo band like auggie suggest, or just let a professional do it with me.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 9:46 pm to gsvar2004
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my very rough "scratch" recordings are with a 13 year old MacBook pro, a focusrite solo, my acoustic guitar, and ableton live lite lol.
Hey, this is what I started with. If you look into it, you'd be surprised how far things have come as far as home recording and production in the past decade.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 9:57 pm to SEClint
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Hey, this is what I started with.
You privileged little punk
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:07 pm to auggie
quote:compared to what you can get now?
You privileged little punk
I worked to get the 4 track, before that was recording onto 2 boom boxes with 1 playing a drum track.
That was just the 1st real piece of equipment I got as far as home recording went in the 90s.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:16 pm to SEClint
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compared to what you can get now?
Well, I was comparing to what we were trying to do before they even had 4 trax. Trying to do your Rythm track on 1 cassette recorder, run that through an amp while you were singing and playing the rest of it, with your friend playing drums on some shoe boxes and coffee cans and recording that on another cassette recorder.
This post was edited on 9/13/23 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:25 pm to auggie
It made you try harder though..that's the thing about those types of limitations.
Then the excitement of playing it back in the car or something. Those were fun times, I wish I still had all those cassettes I used to. I had garbage bags full that were ruined in Katrina. Most of the friends I was playing with are dead now.
Now im missing being broke in the 1990s. I think I really just miss being able to get excited about the future. Oh well..that's what weed is for.
Then the excitement of playing it back in the car or something. Those were fun times, I wish I still had all those cassettes I used to. I had garbage bags full that were ruined in Katrina. Most of the friends I was playing with are dead now.
Now im missing being broke in the 1990s. I think I really just miss being able to get excited about the future. Oh well..that's what weed is for.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:34 pm to SEClint
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It made you try harder though..that's the thing about those types of limitations.
Then the excitement of playing it back in the car or something. Those were fun times, I wish I still had all those cassettes I used to. I had garbage bags full that were ruined in Katrina. Most of the friends I was playing with are dead now.
Now im missing being broke in the 1990s. I think I really just miss being able to get excited about the future.
All true
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:46 pm to auggie
Being disappointed in the current state of popular music too doesn't help my hopes of better tomorrows either.
Saw they had a Video Mucis Awards on MTV recently. Why should a network that doesn't even play music get the privilege of hosting such an event? To showcase the names most of us are tired of.
I know people feel youtube and etc killed music videos and mtv..but, it's almost to a point now where having a TV channel playing block of different genres of music videos by today's artists..would be a niche retro thing to do, that could possibly get over. People wanting new music would have an option. Interview the artists that get the most feedback. Showcase a live in-studio performance, Etc.
Be sorta what mtv was when it first started. Full circle that shite.
Saw they had a Video Mucis Awards on MTV recently. Why should a network that doesn't even play music get the privilege of hosting such an event? To showcase the names most of us are tired of.
I know people feel youtube and etc killed music videos and mtv..but, it's almost to a point now where having a TV channel playing block of different genres of music videos by today's artists..would be a niche retro thing to do, that could possibly get over. People wanting new music would have an option. Interview the artists that get the most feedback. Showcase a live in-studio performance, Etc.
Be sorta what mtv was when it first started. Full circle that shite.
This post was edited on 9/13/23 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:54 pm to SEClint
I played with a kid tonight, at first, he wanted to do some shite with his phone and play along with it, and do it exactly that way.
I skull drug him out of that and made him just think and play.
He did OK as long as we stayed in the key of C major and A minor.
I have hope for him. He's only 19.
I skull drug him out of that and made him just think and play.
He did OK as long as we stayed in the key of C major and A minor.
I have hope for him. He's only 19.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 11:17 pm to auggie
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He's only 19
frick, I'd been playing for a decade by that point.
I wish guitars would've never disappeared from a generation, as a result pawn shops now have jack shite. Now that's a nostalgic thing I really do miss, stacked options on pawn shop guitars, which results in lower prices.
This post was edited on 9/13/23 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 9/13/23 at 11:33 pm to SEClint
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Now that's a nostalgic thing I really do miss, stacked options on pawn shop guitars, which results in lower prices.
You've got to be good friends with the pawn shop owners. You get 1st call.
Can't believe you don't already know this.
I know you are a satanist and devil worshiper and shite, but you seem to have some pretty high moral standards
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:40 am to auggie
I went ahead and took auggies advice and joined the NSAI and uploaded my song for evaluation and plan to go to October’s meeting. Thanks again guys for the solid advice.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:54 am to gsvar2004
When they are playing your song, look around at the crowd and watch their faces,
It will tell you more than the words that the publisher says. They are watching the faces too.
The best feeling in the world, is when that publisher looks out on this group of songwriters and says" Yall want to hear more of this?" and they all nod their heads and they don't even know yet who wrote it. That comes later, if they pick it up.
It's a world of heartbreak and fun. Dive in.
It will tell you more than the words that the publisher says. They are watching the faces too.
The best feeling in the world, is when that publisher looks out on this group of songwriters and says" Yall want to hear more of this?" and they all nod their heads and they don't even know yet who wrote it. That comes later, if they pick it up.
It's a world of heartbreak and fun. Dive in.
This post was edited on 9/15/23 at 1:32 am
Posted on 9/14/23 at 3:28 pm to auggie
When “they” play your song, are they playing a recording you and your producer made for a crowd that then gives feedback? I am fascinated by this process as I have zero experience with it.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 4:05 pm to kingbob
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When “they” play your song, are they playing a recording you and your producer made for a crowd that then gives feedback? I am fascinated by this process as I have zero experience with it.
It's whatever you have and give to them or link.
It's going to differ, according to whatever each publisher wants.
It use to be, just a cassette tape with a typed lyric sheet, they stuck it in a jam box and hit play.
Now, trying to answer your question more clearly, I usually just do a guitar /vocal thing. I always feel that my lyrics are my strength, so I don't want the other stuff getting in the way. You've got to do whatever you're going to do though.
They will tell you up front what the publisher wants, and NSAI will try and help you meet what is required if you are a member.
This post was edited on 9/15/23 at 1:02 am
Posted on 9/14/23 at 5:59 pm to auggie
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You've got to be good friends with the pawn shop owners
Posted on 9/14/23 at 6:07 pm to SEClint
Alright shnob, you're the one cryin..
talkin all about this " keep tryin harder stuff", but when you get down to it, evidence is starting to prove, you're a frickstick.
I always give you the benefit of the doubt. Keep talkin.
talkin all about this " keep tryin harder stuff", but when you get down to it, evidence is starting to prove, you're a frickstick.
I always give you the benefit of the doubt. Keep talkin.
This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:38 pm to auggie
Aren't you the one who made a thread wondering where I've been when I didn't post here for a while?
..Yeah, I don't really need this place anyways.
..Yeah, I don't really need this place anyways.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 7:50 pm to SEClint
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Aren't you the one who made a thread wondering where I've been when I didn't post here for a while?
..Yeah, I don't really need this place anyways.
Yes, because I care. I like you. I know that you have incredible potential. You already know half of it. If I light your arse up, it's because I give a shite.
Are you offended by some small comment I made? sorry for hurting your feelings little buddy.
I am willing to apologize here. I have a bunch of stuff going on all the time and sometimes my arse is on my shoulders.
This post was edited on 9/15/23 at 1:16 am
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