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re: Will John Mayer go down as the best songwriter of the millennials generation?

Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:23 am to
Posted by ALTiger
Alabama
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Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:23 am to
Some people clearly don't understand songwriting. It's not all about the lyrics, although john mayer does well with his lyrics, but it's much more about intricate progressions and crafting your own unique progressions throughout different songs.

John Mayer does this better than almost anyone I've seen. He is a true student of music and music theory and it's evident if you start dissecting his songs.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:28 am to
That's the issue I see all the time. True musicians can see the behind the scenes working and respect it. Learning all of his room for squares actually taught me chords I hadn't even thought of and I studied theory. His structure and production has been impeccable since his Berklee days.

Too many are just looking at him with a listeners judgement. His audience, facial expressions, influences, etc. anyone giving him an honest, non jelly, chance will see the forest for the trees with Mayer.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
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Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:41 am to
he's a whole bunch of "meh" to me, but to each their own.
pretty cheesey easy listening adult contemporary rehashed blues garbage IMO

I'm not a white boy blues fans fwiw.
This post was edited on 9/28/14 at 11:44 am
Posted by CocoLoco
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Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:46 am to
Racist
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:47 am to
That's fine if its not your cup of tea. But he's got around 5 albums that aren't blues
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:10 pm to
john mayer trio was pretty good. like just that one album.


everything else he's put out is horrible. Only teenage girls on their period like that crap.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:12 pm to
Swimming away from that shiny shite
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

hat's the issue I see all the time. True musicians can see the behind the scenes working and respect it. Learning all of his room for squares actually taught me chords I hadn't even thought of and I studied theory. His structure and production has been impeccable since his Berklee days.

Too many are just looking at him with a listeners judgement. His audience, facial expressions, influences, etc. anyone giving him an honest, non jelly, chance will see the forest for the trees with Mayer.


I can't deny his talent but he's an enormous douche and I despise his persona.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:16 pm to
Fair enough. Not really what the thread is about but... Yeah I'd say he's pretty brash.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38389 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

Fair enough. Not really what the thread is about but... Yeah I'd say he's pretty brash.


Yea I know, I was basically admitting that my dislike of him as a person colors my perception of his music

I've liked his later tunes more than his earlier stuff for sure
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26883 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

Yea I know, I was basically admitting that my dislike of him as a person colors my perception of his music


You and every other person to comment negatively. It's either his reputation or his target audience. Never his talent.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31547 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:32 pm to
he's obviously talented

he's just not doing anything different
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26883 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:34 pm to
Who is he not different than on an album like continuum?

Cause if you say SRV or Clapton then I know you haven't heard it.
This post was edited on 9/28/14 at 12:36 pm
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
the Verde River
Member since Jan 2013
21591 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

In a mixed review, Slant Magazine's Jonathan Keefe wrote that, "with no edge to the songwriting and with such spit-polished, tasteful production, Continuum just doesn't convince as a heady, soulful rock album or as Mayer's creative quantum leap forward
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26883 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:43 pm to
Lol

Now post what rolling stone magazine said.
This post was edited on 9/28/14 at 12:45 pm
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31547 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:45 pm to
it's not as good as you think it is. it's meandering noodle blues fluff.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
the Verde River
Member since Jan 2013
21591 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:47 pm to
Just supporting the fact that Continuum isn't a great album.

Outside of that one Trio album and a few sit-ins with legends, Mayer has never really impressed me. He is talented, but has never put out a killer album to put him over the top. Until then he is just pop rock fodder.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31547 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:48 pm to
I agree with you 100%

dawg, are you a coldplay fan by chance?
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26883 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:48 pm to
More than half of that album isn't blues. I don't know what you're listening to
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
24830 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:49 pm to
you have shitty taste in music. get off my frickin board noob
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