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What kind of money do you think a band like Drive by Truckers get for a gig?

Posted on 5/13/18 at 6:21 pm
Posted by D Tide
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Posted on 5/13/18 at 6:21 pm
Just curious on y'alls opinion on what a band like DBT or someone at a similar level gets per gig or what those guys clear a year
Posted by Pitt Road
Mid-Florida
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 5/13/18 at 7:31 pm to
Great question, I've always wondered myself what a decent band gets in one night.

Edit: Obviously it depends on the venue, but there should be some norm.
This post was edited on 5/13/18 at 7:38 pm
Posted by BigOrangeVols
Knoxville
Member since Jul 2015
3082 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 7:50 pm to
They pull between like 20-30K. I think that's their festival pricing as venue shows typically pay a small lump sum guaranteed and then a percentage of ticket sales after costs are covered. Pricing varies based on whether it's tour vs. one-off and festival vs. venue.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 5/13/18 at 7:57 pm to
LINK

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Looking to "make it" in the music business? These are the type of financials you can look forward to on a 30-day tour…

Tour Income

$2,000.00 per night show guarantee (30 dates)= $60,000.00
$750.00 per night in gross merch sales (30 dates)= $22,500.00

TOTAL INCOME GROSS= $82,500.00
Tour Expenses
Merch/commissions:

Estimated merch expense (cost of goods, venue fees, shipping )= -$9,000.00
Management commissions of guarantee (15% gross) = -$9,000.00
Agent commissions of guarantee (10% gross) = -$6,000.00
Management commissions of NET sales of merch= -$2,025.00
Total commissions: $26,025.00

Crew Expenses: (weekly salary per week for 4 weeks)

TM/FOH $1,000.00 per week = -$4000.00
Merch seller $650.00 per week= -$2600.00
Driver $600.00 per week = -$2400.00
Stage tech $450.00 per week= -$1800.00
Total crew cost: $10,800.00

Vehicle and Travel expenses:

Estimated cost for 32 days van rent w/ trailer= -$5200.00
Estimated cost of fuel for full US tour at 12,660 miles ($2.50 gallon/10MPG) = -$3150.00
Estimated cost of tolls/parking= -$500.00
Hotels (25 nights x $100.00 per night [double bed, cots, band brings air mattress]) = -$2500.00
Total vehicle/travel cost= $11,350.00

Production Expenses:

Small light rig/fog machine/strobe rental = -$2,000.00
Misc. costs (gear, taxis, uber, incidentals) = -$1,500.00
Total Production cost s= $3,500.00

Band/Crew Per Diems:

$10.00 per day for 5 members/4 crew/ $90.00 per day total for 32 days = -$2,880.00
Total per diem cost= $2,880.00

TOTAL ESTIMATED COST OF EXPENSES: $52,060.00

GROSS INCOME = $82,500.00
Subtract EXPENSES- $54,555.00

Remaining Profit = $27,945.00

Amount that each of the five band members receives: $5,589.00 for the month-long tour.
Posted by D Tide
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/13/18 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

They pull between like 20-30K

That seems pretty high even for a special festival but you could be right. Once you get outside the radio top 40 very few bands can sell 1,000 tickets
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
42606 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 10:57 pm to
Look at the ticket prices and sizes of the venues they play for their solo shows. That should give you a good idea of what they make. Festival pricing is probably a little different.
Posted by BunkieWrench
Katy
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/13/18 at 11:32 pm to
Huge list of popular band prices.

This list confirms the 20-30K cost for DBT.
Posted by yallgood
Franklinton
Member since Jan 2018
1141 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:09 am to
Whatever it is, they are worth it for Cooley's songs alone.
Posted by D Tide
Member since Mar 2012
503 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:15 am to
Yeah, I've seen that list is really interesting but I think that a list of what some of those acts got or ask for at one point in their career
How long as it been since Travis Tritt got 75-100K? He played a local show recently for like 200-500 seat place with 10-20 dollar tickets and it wasn't sold out..... Tracy Lawernce isn't getting 40K than are many other examples
Posted by LSUrme
JP
Member since Oct 2005
5504 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:34 am to
Ask BlackenedOut since Hogs booked DBT a few years ago.
Posted by LSUbacchus
Portland, Oregon
Member since Jul 2012
1862 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:51 am to
Avicii and Chris Cornell are still listed and very affordable
Posted by AUGDawg
Montana
Member since Nov 2014
1912 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:51 am to
It was my understanding that most bands have a set price (or close to it), that promoters pay out to the band's management team. Regardless of ticket sales, they get paid a set amount. If the venue is undersold, the promoter is the one on the hook for it.

Festivals are obviously a little different because they don't have as much of a liability, stage setup, lighting (if they have a set during the day), etc.
Posted by BigOrangeVols
Knoxville
Member since Jul 2015
3082 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 11:46 am to
That all boils down to contracting and who's repping the show. If joe blow wants to book a band then yeah - that flat rate is typically what will be agreed upon. But when bands go on tour a lot of times they will do a payout with a smaller guaranteed lump sum and then a percentage of sales once production costs have been met.

And different groups will be charged differently - I know fraternities and Universities get gouged because they're viewed as loose spenders who are able to afford it. But when booking managers are scheduling a tour they're trying to flesh out dates to make a complete/financially-viable tour.
This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 11:50 am
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31547 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:33 pm to
depends on the gig for how much they get paid. 800 capacity venue at a $25 per ticket comes to 20k.

but it's all about what kind of deal from show to show gets negotiated obviously
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60138 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 2:58 pm to
Hopefully nothing now that they went all anti America
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31547 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 4:40 pm to
we're just living in a white mans world
Posted by JW
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2004
5299 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 4:44 pm to
that seems high for the DBT. but maybe so these days.

Most touring bands will get a guarantee + a split at a certain point. For instance i did a show with Shovels and Rope.

Guarantee was $1200 I believe with a split of 80/20 after $1800. the 600 gap being expenses and support. that show sold out at $15 a head x 240

so the house made $360 and covered expenses (sound, promotion etc.) Alcohol sales being the money maker.
Posted by D Tide
Member since Mar 2012
503 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

Guarantee was $1200 I believe with a split of 80/20 after $1800. the 600 gap being expenses and support. that show sold out at $15 a head x 240

so the house made $360 and covered expenses (sound, promotion etc.) Alcohol sales being the money maker.

This seems pretty realistic and probably the case for 90% of the bands with ticket prices ranging from 10-20 and maybe a few places will get 500 people
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 5/15/18 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

Huge list of popular band prices.


No way the chick that sings Call Me Maybe gets more than the Goo Goo Dolls, I refuse to believe that!

ETA: and 5-7k for G-Eazy?
This post was edited on 5/15/18 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Dale Sturtevant
Uptown
Member since Mar 2015
137 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 2:19 pm to
100k-150k+ for Sublime w/ Rome is ridiculously high.
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