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Van Halen or Van Hagar ?
Posted on 6/2/22 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 6/2/22 at 3:44 pm
Van Halen, and it's not even close.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 6/2/22 at 3:46 pm to LSU in the hizzle
Dave lost his hairline, but Sammy lost his cool, buddy.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 3:54 pm to LSU in the hizzle
Hagar for me and not close. I appreciate Hagar's actual singing skill more than Dave's showmanship. Also thought Eddie did his best guitar work in the Hagar years.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:22 pm to LSU in the hizzle
Gary
just kidding, I'll take Sammy
just kidding, I'll take Sammy
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:30 pm to LSU in the hizzle
Van Halen.
Instrumentally, Eddie had some great stuff during the Van Hagar years so I still listen to both.
Hagar sucks though, just so we are clear.
Instrumentally, Eddie had some great stuff during the Van Hagar years so I still listen to both.
Hagar sucks though, just so we are clear.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:35 pm to LSU in the hizzle
Van Hagar killed two great bands. From 1982...
"Remember The Heroes" - Sammy Hagar
"Big Bad Bill (Is Sweet William Now) - Dave & Van Halen
From Wikipedia..
"Big Bad Bill (Is Sweet William Now)"
Dave: "I think it's a great song. And there's been this thread winding its way through all of Van Halen's music and all of our albums since beginning with 'Ice Cream Man.' I played acoustic guitar and songs like this for quite a while before I ever joined Van Halen. It's music. Why do I have to bang my head to every single song on every single album? I don't think the audience has that much lack of creativity or imagination."
Eddie: "It was Dave's idea to do 'Big Bad Bill'. He bought himself one of those Sanyo Walkman-type things with the FM-AM radio, and you can record off the radio if you like something you hear. He was up in his bedroom at his father's house and he found that if he stood in a certain spot and pointed his antenna a certain way, he picked up this weird radio station in Louisville, Kentucky. He recorded 'Big Bad Bill' and played it to us, and we started laughing ourselves silly and going, 'That is bad! Let's do it!' Dave suggested, 'Hey, we can get your old man to play the clarinet.' We said, 'sure.'
"It's so funny, because I couldn't play the song for you right now. I had to read because there were so many chords, I just couldn't remember it. So here's my father to the left of me, sitting on a chair with a music stand in front of him, and I'm sitting next to him with sheet music in a stand. Mike was there, too, playing like an acoustic guitar bass – the kind they have in Mexican restaurants where they come up, play in front of your face, and aggravate you. We had a great time. It looked like an old '30s or '40s session. I used some thick Gibson hollowbody with f-holes. My father hadn't played in a long time because he had lost his left-hand middle finger about 10 years ago. He was nervous, and we told him, 'Jan, just have a good time. We make mistakes! That's what makes it real.' I love what he did, but he was thinking back 10 years ago when he was smokin', playing jazz and stuff. He played exactly what we wanted."
Dave: "I think when you hear Mr. Van Halen playing, you'll have an idea it's a shadow of where Eddie and Alex are now. There's a sense of humour in there, a lot of technique and a whole lot of beer!"
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:52 pm to LSU in the hizzle
Van Halen. Diamond Dave is the shite.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 8:10 pm to danilo
Van Halen, easily. They were a force.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:22 pm to LSU in the hizzle
No comparison.
Two different bands.
Even Eddie's playing was different with Sammy....
Two different bands.
Even Eddie's playing was different with Sammy....
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:39 pm to LSU in the hizzle
I basically treat them as two unrelated bands. I like them both about the same but for different reasons.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:31 pm to LSU in the hizzle
Van Halen. The music that they released with Hagar was cheesy at the time and hasn't aged well at all.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 11:22 pm to LSU in the hizzle
I say both! David was the ultimate front man back in the day but Sammy brought more hits and could sing his butt off.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 11:26 pm to LSU in the hizzle
Both versions of the band were great, but I personally enjoy David Lee Roth's swaggy party music better than Sammy Hagar's over the top love ballads.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 11:38 pm to LSU in the hizzle
If you’d have asked me that in 85, I’d have told you that I no longer recognize them as Van Halen anymore, but as time passes, truth be known, Sammy has proven himself to be one of the hardest working and best rock and roll voices of all time, right up there with Paul Rodgers and Robert Plant IMO, but it’s still hard for me to call his time with them as Van Halen. I still associate him with Montrose.
He had a difficult job though as it’s hard to supplant a legend. I remember the grief that Jake E Lee took for no other reason than he simply wasn’t Randy Rhoads, and that was so unfair because nobody could be, and fact is that Jake is quite a good guitarist in his own right. People do that tough.
He had a difficult job though as it’s hard to supplant a legend. I remember the grief that Jake E Lee took for no other reason than he simply wasn’t Randy Rhoads, and that was so unfair because nobody could be, and fact is that Jake is quite a good guitarist in his own right. People do that tough.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 7:39 am to LSU in the hizzle
quote:
Van Halen, and it's not even close
well... yeah!
i do like some of the sammy songs. i just don't consider them the same band
Posted on 6/3/22 at 7:56 am to LSU in the hizzle
Diamond Dave was a better front man, but Sammy was a better singer and overall musician. The music was better with Sammy, but more polished (normal for the 80s). The vibes are different.
I like a lot more of the Van Hagar songs, for sure.
I like a lot more of the Van Hagar songs, for sure.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 8:11 am to LSU in the hizzle
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it's not even close.
Van Hagar is laughably bad. OUbought12 is terrible.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 8:55 am to LSU in the hizzle
I don't understand why people for decades have brought this up like it's some kind of neck and neck race. It'd be like asking whose better Richt or Kirby; both are good and all but it's not a comparison. Hagar isn't dogcrap and they did put out some good tunes during that era, but as anothe rposter said it's practically a different band post-1984.
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