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re: Turnpike Troubadours/Jason Isbell/Trampled by turtles tix in high supply
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:24 am to cgrand
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:24 am to cgrand
quote:
fees are set by the artist not Ticketmaster.
artists management really. the band/artist doesn't have much say in their ticket prices. They have input but it isn't decided by them.
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:56 am to monsterballads
quote:yes they do. if the artist(s) wanted 30 dollar tickets, there would be 30 dollar tickets. the artist(s) who have the draw like TT, isbell, etc can dictate...if they want. they dont want, because they want the money.
the band/artist doesn't have much say in their ticket prices
and i get it...if theres not complaining about price then you arent charging enough. its the artist that people go to see, they should charge what they want. but blaming ticketmaster is exactly what they want you to do (ie: not blame them
)This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 10:57 am
Posted on 12/11/23 at 2:50 pm to cgrand
I don’t think you understand how the music business works
eta: promoters/management/venues set prices. the bands do the work. they don't set their concert prices. I didn't know that wasn't common knowledge.
eta: promoters/management/venues set prices. the bands do the work. they don't set their concert prices. I didn't know that wasn't common knowledge.
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 12/11/23 at 3:36 pm to monsterballads
They will probably lower prices closer to the show - most events that aren't selling well have been doing this.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 3:44 pm to monsterballads
quote:those that can't, don't. those that can (like isbell) absolutely could if they wanted to. but they dont
promoters/management/venues set prices. the bands do the work. they don't set their concert prices
so you are right, obviously, that bands generally dont set ticket prices, because they have no incentive to do so. but they could if they cared about lowering prices.
so "we" blame ticketmaster, while the artists that can demand it get 100- 100+% of the door, and the fees get collected and split by TM/venue/artist.
its a broken system all the way around, but the major artists could change it if they wanted to
Posted on 12/11/23 at 4:03 pm to cgrand
you do understand that this isn't isbell's tour anyways right? again, the promoters/management/venues set the prices. ticket master/live nation gets their cut.
it's just going to get worse too. long gone are the days when you could see isbell play for $15.
it's just going to get worse too. long gone are the days when you could see isbell play for $15.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 4:30 pm to monsterballads
quote:
it's just going to get worse too. long gone are the days when you could see isbell play for $15.
They'll have $20 tickets if sales remain poor (It's not a knock but is a trend I've noticed for different events on Ticketmaster)
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 12/12/23 at 5:05 am to John Casey
Agreed. He is boring.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 5:58 pm to RoscoeSanCarlos
TT are playing my local arena this Friday with Ian Munsick and The Wild Feathers. Capacity for concerts is near 18,000. I was looking at tickets yesterday and the upper bowl is blocked off with around 2/3 of the lower bowl being used. Lots of availability, maybe 3,000 tickets sold.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:19 pm to TommyCheeseballs
Turnpike and isbell aren’t huge draws anymore and for some reason turnpike management keeps booking bigger venues even tho they aren’t filling them outside of Oklahoma.
The orange beach show was super dissapointing. Empty seats everywhere and the sound was dogshit. Muscadine bloodline opened and the sound was clear as day so I don’t know why it would be different for turnpike. Turnpike is by far my favorite band but they need better direction.
The orange beach show was super dissapointing. Empty seats everywhere and the sound was dogshit. Muscadine bloodline opened and the sound was clear as day so I don’t know why it would be different for turnpike. Turnpike is by far my favorite band but they need better direction.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:27 pm to tilco
I wish Evan would start drinking again
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:58 pm to Motorboat
at the point i wouldn't be surprised at all if they just canceled the damn show like they did wyatt flores at the lamar dixon.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 10:26 pm to cgrand
I'm talking about the BS "facilty charges, etc..." that TM piles on top of the listed per seat ticket price.
It is bullshite pure profit gouging.
If that is a part of your cost of doing business, just price it into the ticket like any other industry.
Throwing teaser prices out for tickets then adding 15-20% when you actually go to purchase them is just bullshite.
A pair of $100/each tickets winds up being $260-270 by the time they add all the fluff.
frick Ticketmaster.
It is bullshite pure profit gouging.
If that is a part of your cost of doing business, just price it into the ticket like any other industry.
Throwing teaser prices out for tickets then adding 15-20% when you actually go to purchase them is just bullshite.
A pair of $100/each tickets winds up being $260-270 by the time they add all the fluff.
frick Ticketmaster.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:42 am to tilco
quote:
Turnpike and isbell aren’t huge draws anymore
I mean they are big draws but in certain places. Isbell played the Orpheum theatre in Nola recently and sold it out but that isn’t the river center arena in Baton Rouge. Turnpike hasn’t played a BR show since late 2018. It was sold out but that was 800 people. Again much different than the river center which I believe holds 8,900 people. Less for concerts of course. But let’s say it’s 6000 people for the April show. That to me is way too big. Lamar Dixon setup for 4000 would have been a better venue or the BR river center theatre which holds 1800 I think. Either way, the prices are too high for the April show and IMO when they go down to $40 you’ll start seeing tickets selling. Right now with the fees for two tickets in nose bleed you’re still seeing $60 plus fees.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:05 am to tiggerfan02 2021
quote:case in point
I'm talking about the BS "facilty charges, etc..." that TM piles on top of the listed per seat ticket price.
It is bullshite pure profit gouging.
If that is a part of your cost of doing business, just price it into the ticket like any other industry.
Throwing teaser prices out for tickets then adding 15-20% when you actually go to purchase them is just bullshite.
A pair of $100/each tickets winds up being $260-270 by the time they add all the fluff.
frick Ticketmaster.
the system is designed for you (the fan) to blame TM for the costs/fees, not the artist(s). TM is happy to take the blame because they are a monopoly. the artists get to keep their credibility while enjoying the proceeds
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:24 am to cgrand
Once again, the artist/band does not set the price. Jason Isbell and Evan Felker aren't the ones saying "you know for the baton rouge show, make the first 5 rows $350+ and the outer far away seats $60."
This is not how any of this works You have to understand that both of these bands have agents, management, booking agents, publicists etc. The people performing the music aren't the ones cutting deals with venues. That is just not how it happens. You hanging onto this idea that Jason Isbell or Turnpike troubadours are the ones establishing ticket tier prices is insane.
This is not how any of this works
You have to understand that both of these bands have agents, management, booking agents, publicists etc. The people performing the music aren't the ones cutting deals with venues. That is just not how it happens. You hanging onto this idea that Jason Isbell or Turnpike troubadours are the ones establishing ticket tier prices is insane.Posted on 12/13/23 at 11:32 am to monsterballads
quote:not interested in arguing this strawman, which i never said. what you are saying is unequivocally correct. what i am saying (that TM takes the blame for exorbitant prices & fees, that the artists share in and could do something about if they wanted to) is also unequivocally correct
Jason Isbell and Evan Felker aren't the ones saying "you know for the baton rouge show, make the first 5 rows $350+ and the outer far away seats $60."
Posted on 12/13/23 at 11:48 am to monsterballads
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Jason Isbell and Evan Felker aren't the ones saying "you know for the baton rouge show, make the first 5 rows $350+ and the outer far away seats $60."
You know isbell hates playing for all us white chud trump supporters and now that Evan felker is on the new “sobriety” fad he’s probably a lib now too.
Somebody get these guys drunk so we can get some good music and reasonably priced tickets like back in the drunk days
Posted on 12/13/23 at 12:26 pm to cgrand
quote:
could do something about if they wanted to
could they really though? when at that level, the artist/band aren't making those kind of decisions.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 1:05 pm to MC123
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After fees it was $475 for a pair on the floor.
Good. Pretentious douche Jason Isbell going to learn a lesson. Hope he loses money.
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