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Posted on 9/11/12 at 12:05 pm to TheDoc
is this thread a taste of what the poli board is like?
Posted on 9/11/12 at 12:19 pm to TheDoc
quote:
Cashed in how?
Country Joe McDonald comes to mind. Started his music career with anit-vietnam songs rallying the hippies. Cashed in on the sentiment of his audience, just like Toby Keith.
If you don't understand the correlation, then I don't think we will have a good discourse on this.
I am in no way trying to support Toby Keith and his cashing in. I was just pointing out your hatred for Keith and his cashing in is similar to the anti-Vietnam movement, except one didn't negatively affect the troop moral, but instead is uplifting.
Posted on 9/11/12 at 1:51 pm to Trauma14
quote:
Cashed in how?
Just a few examples:
Give Peace A Chance – John Lennon
War – Edwin Starr
Ohio – CSN&Y
Fortunate Song – CCR
Run Through the Jungle – CCR
For What It’s Worth – Buffalo Springfield
Eve of Destruction – Barry McGuire
Blowing in the Wind – Bob Dylan
Posted on 9/11/12 at 3:01 pm to stout
quote:Ode to Ignorance
Alan Jackson
Posted on 9/11/12 at 3:11 pm to TheDoc
frankly I hate any music that brings up politics, even if I agree with them.
Toby keith's music is just fricking awful though, so it gets special level of hate.
Toby keith's music is just fricking awful though, so it gets special level of hate.
Posted on 9/11/12 at 3:30 pm to Tigah in the ATL
quote:
Ode to Ignorance
Alan Jackson is the man
Posted on 9/11/12 at 3:34 pm to Trauma14
quote:
Country Joe McDonald
Is a veteran, FWIW. As is John Fogerty (Fortunate Son).
Posted on 9/11/12 at 3:43 pm to oompaw
quote:
Give Peace A Chance – John Lennon
War – Edwin Starr
Ohio – CSN&Y
Fortunate Song – CCR
Run Through the Jungle – CCR
For What It’s Worth – Buffalo Springfield
Eve of Destruction – Barry McGuire
Blowing in the Wind – Bob Dylan
Anti-war songs are not "cashing in"
Posted on 9/11/12 at 3:44 pm to Trauma14
quote:
Country Joe McDonald comes to mind. Started his music career with anit-vietnam songs rallying the hippies. Cashed in on the sentiment of his audience, just like Toby Keith.
Toby Keith's song is ignorant nationalism
There's nothing wrong with anti war songs IMO
Posted on 9/11/12 at 3:59 pm to TheDoc
used to enjoy TK older stuff prior to 911
havent cared for him since then
now i do enjoy Jacksons songs made after 911
havent cared for him since then
now i do enjoy Jacksons songs made after 911
Posted on 9/11/12 at 4:09 pm to TheDoc
I think it's shlock, but fact is Nashville studios light up like bottlerockets when any national tragedy occurs.
I'll cut Toby a little slack though, since he has done 9 USO tours. If you really want to hear a dissection of Keith, from a vet, google Toby/Kris Kristopherson and their (reported) exchange at Willie's 70th Birthday party.
I'll cut Toby a little slack though, since he has done 9 USO tours. If you really want to hear a dissection of Keith, from a vet, google Toby/Kris Kristopherson and their (reported) exchange at Willie's 70th Birthday party.
This post was edited on 9/11/12 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 9/11/12 at 4:40 pm to MiNd DrIpS
quote:
Have Your Forgotten?
Horrific song.
This song not only sounds bad, but the lyrics grate. "and they say we shouldnt go after bin laden..." who was saying that? He's having an argument with an imaginary foe.
Posted on 9/11/12 at 5:56 pm to TheDoc
Meh, someone's gonna capitalize.
Might as well be a douche like Toby Keith
Might as well be a douche like Toby Keith
Posted on 9/11/12 at 6:24 pm to TheDoc
quote:
Always found his song about 9/11 to be bullshite that appeals to the low hanging fruit crowd. 'merica frick yeah etc
In your camp.
Lee Greenwood is likely his marketing consultant.
Posted on 9/11/12 at 9:10 pm to Sao
Lee greenwood is another one
Posted on 9/11/12 at 9:28 pm to TheDoc
quote:
Anti-war songs are not "cashing in"
DISAGREE. Just because something takes an "anti-" stance doesn't mean it is mutually exclusive to "cashing in." When there is a pronounced counter-culture that can be exploited, songs that pander to that counter-culture for the sake of generating revenue are quintessential examples of cashing in. Admittedly, that assumes we can discern the artist's motivations, which is questionable at best. If we're comfortable saying Toby Keith is cashing in on the prevalent attitude of his era, though, why are we not comfortable saying the same thing for any of the artists you quoted?
Posted on 9/11/12 at 9:48 pm to TheDoc
quote:Greenday
exploiting 9/11
Bo Diddley
Ani DiFranco
Everclear
Lupe Fiasco
Disturbed
Fleetwood Mac
Jay-Z
John Mayer
My Chemical Romance
Slayer
Will Smith
Springsteen
Wu Tang
Beyonce
Beastie Boys
All did exploitive songs about the same American Tragedy.
But, y'know, damn that Keith guy or whatever.
LINK
Personally, I think YOU are going after the low hanging fruit by isolating a country artist. Country has the fewest amount of defenders on this board of all the major genres.
This post was edited on 9/11/12 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 9/11/12 at 9:49 pm to TheDoc
quote:The frick?
Anti-war songs are not "cashing in"
How are they not?
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