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re: The Great American Rock Band

Posted on 3/7/13 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by The Dudes Rug
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 3:11 pm to
I'm just his rug, our taste in music differ.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 3:13 pm to
Well no wonder you got pissed on
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

One of the greatest comedies ever.
It's like the Coen's 5th best movie.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 3:17 pm to
O rly?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 3:18 pm to
That's just like...my opinion...
Posted by TexasTiger1185
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

It's like the Coen's 5th best movie


Posted by The Dudes Rug
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 3:19 pm to
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 3:20 pm to
Just an estimate from memory. Did not look at the list. Could be farther down.
Posted by parrotdr
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 3:49 pm to
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Only reason I didn't say Grateful Dead is simply because I don't think they touch as much of the country as Allman Brothers. There really aren't many Dead fans down here. Conversely if you go where there are a lot of fans (California, northeast) there are a ton of ABB fans too.

Grateful Dead are my favorite band, but lots of people don't really appreciate or listen to them.


TexasTiger...you put it perfectly. I was trying to figure out a...nice? ...way of saying that lots of folks don't like or care much about the Dead. I get the "cultural movement" thing. I'm talking about the music. I've TRIED to like them...just can't do it. More power to ya if you do like 'em. Not my cup of tea.

My friends and I have had discussions about how none of us get into them at all. My cousin who moved out to SF years ago thinks they're the greatest thing since sliced bread. Something in the water out there?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 4:02 pm to
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music snobs are spreading the gospel... it's a higher calling..


I couldn't disagree with this more. Music snobs generally hate anything that is too popular, so i don't think they want converts, they just like to act like they are better than everyone else.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 4:06 pm to
I used to be the guy that, when someone told me they don't like the Dead I was shocked and appalled. Then I came to realize that lots of people don't, and that in the late 2,000s I'm actually a minority in terms of liking them.

I do think they are the best thing since sliced bread, but I don't try and convince people of it anymore. I don't force friends to listen saying, "give it a try, you'll love it". Because the fact is they probably won't.

Just something about Jerry's guitar that gets me in the groove. Add to that Bobby's attitude and their experimental attitude towards music, Robert Hunter's lyrics... I'm in heaven, and quite frankly it is crowded enough without the rest of you.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 4:10 pm to
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Music snobs generally hate anything that is too popular,
Because the masses have terrible taste.

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so i don't think they want converts,
Conversion is impossible after about age 19 or so.

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they just like to act like they are better than everyone else.
At recognizing great music? Sure. No other area.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 4:18 pm to
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I couldn't disagree with this more. Music snobs generally hate anything that is too popular, so i don't think they want converts, they just like to act like they are better than everyone else.


I find the opposite to be true. Most music snobs I know, we like all sorts of things, and will defend popular things as well (I'm in Call Me Maybe's corner! I think Hanson is great as well). By virtue of having listened to a lot of stuff, we know our tastes, and feel confident in our opinions.

On the flip side, mainstream music fans are the ones who feel the need to demonize those who are audophiles. Look at who lobbed the "snobs" argument, has there been an equivalent "slob" charge? In this thread, multiple times people have argued something is not good because it's not popular enough, but the "snobs" have not made the inverse argument -- that something is bad because it has lots of fans. In fact, I explicitly agreed with a rubric that included popularity in it.

I'm not saying there aren't some people out there who just want to like the most obscure thing they can, but most people grow out of being 22.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13069 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 4:29 pm to
I am not snobby about anything, except snobs. I'm a snobsnob.

You only really understand if you are one too.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59039 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:05 pm to
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Most music snobs I know, we like all sorts of things, and will defend popular things as well (I'm in Call Me Maybe's corner! I think Hanson is great as well). By virtue of having listened to a lot of stuff, we know our tastes, and feel confident in our opinions.


I wouldn't consider you a music snob then.

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In this thread, multiple times people have argued something is not good because it's not popular enough


for this particular topic, I do think it does have to be a popular band, which you seem to agree. I don't much care for Aerosmith, but I think they are good answer to this question. I like Mudhoney, but wouldn't have them in this debate.

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I'm not saying there aren't some people out there who just want to like the most obscure thing they can, but most people grow out of being 22.


these are the people I'm talking about and sadly not all of them do grow out of it

ETA: I do agree that beer snobs are pretty bad.
This post was edited on 3/7/13 at 5:08 pm
Posted by Citizen Kane
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

Music snobs generally hate anything that is too popular,


Yea unless it's PHISH!!
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
11886 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 5:18 pm to
I don't think anyone said it wasn't good because it wasn't popular in this thread. I think they said its hard to be the great American rock band without being a household name.

Also, after what you said, if you consider yourself a music snob then you aren't a very common one. Most would not admit to liking bubblegum type pop.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 8:06 pm to
Finely crafted pop songs are hard to make. I side with Paul McCartney over Lennon. Most people pick up on Lennon's bashing of McCartney as just being a guy who writes pop songs, forgetting that Lennon couldn't write hooks without Paul. Writing a good, catchy song is hard. People don't appreciate the very real skill it takes.

Though a lot of pop music is utter crap, I like a good hook.

And beer snobbery is awesome. I love a good IPA. What do you care what I drink?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259594 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 8:28 pm to
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I couldn't disagree with this more. Music snobs generally hate anything that is too popular, so i don't think they want converts, they just like to act like they are better than everyone else.



Generally proving in the process they don't have a clue what constitutes art. I generally avoid any thread started by a self proclaimed music "snob." Opinionated know it alls generally are closed minded.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 8:31 pm to
The people y'all call music snobs generally listen to a broader range of music than most others. Not real sure how that can be considered close minded
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