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re: Seger or Springsteen
Posted on 5/20/24 at 4:55 am to Flyingtiger82
Posted on 5/20/24 at 4:55 am to Flyingtiger82
Not to beat a dead horse but I find Springsteen vastly overrated so Seger all the way.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 10:36 am to Flyingtiger82
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Seger
Bc he's not a raging lib douche
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:15 pm to Wtodd
I'd put Against the Wind against any Bruce song. It's gets better the older I get.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:40 pm to boogiewoogie1978
I love them both. Seger has such great lyrics. His line in Night Moves "working on mysteries without any clues" is just fricking amazing and a perfect description of teenage sex. He has a lot of those gems.
Springsteen gets a lot of hate in the South because he's obviously from Jersey and his work is very East Coast driven. Seger is Mid-West which can translate to all geographic regions, and he sings about various regions - especially the West.
As far as albums are concerned there is no comparison. Springsteen put out fantastic albums. Even the haters can tell you their names. Seger's best album is Live Bullet. No one ever says, "man you have to pick up this Seger album".
But I love them both. Seger's lyrics to me are somewhat more hopeful at times, Bruce's best songs tend to be more downcast in nature.
Springsteen gets a lot of hate in the South because he's obviously from Jersey and his work is very East Coast driven. Seger is Mid-West which can translate to all geographic regions, and he sings about various regions - especially the West.
As far as albums are concerned there is no comparison. Springsteen put out fantastic albums. Even the haters can tell you their names. Seger's best album is Live Bullet. No one ever says, "man you have to pick up this Seger album".
But I love them both. Seger's lyrics to me are somewhat more hopeful at times, Bruce's best songs tend to be more downcast in nature.
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 5/20/24 at 4:02 pm to Flyingtiger82
Seger by head and shoulders.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 8:59 pm to Kafka
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which made him very AOR- friendly.
I think you mean MOR, not AOR. The former pretty much killed the latter.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 10:00 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
AOR was essentially top 4O for albums.
As the '70s went along Top 40 AM was less and less interested in guitar-oriented hard rock. But AOR FM welcomed it, giving lots of airplay to arena rock staples from Zep to VH & ACDC.
The "Yacht Rock" (lol) acts got airplay on Top 4O as well as AOR, giving them a sales advantage over hard rock acts.
As the '70s went along Top 40 AM was less and less interested in guitar-oriented hard rock. But AOR FM welcomed it, giving lots of airplay to arena rock staples from Zep to VH & ACDC.
The "Yacht Rock" (lol) acts got airplay on Top 4O as well as AOR, giving them a sales advantage over hard rock acts.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 10:03 pm to Kafka
DEDICATED TO ALL THE SPRINGSTEEN HATERS:
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:57 pm to Wtodd
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Bc he's not a raging lib douche
I guess I don't see the point of injecting politics into everything. Neither Springsteen or Seger's songs are particularly political. FWIW, Seger was a fan of Bernie and Hillary in 2016.
It's a question about artistic merit and politics doesn't have to be a part of everything. Sometimes it's nice to just enjoy the music without injecting political feelings.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 9:04 am to Flyingtiger82
This really isn't close.
Once the insane politics of Springsteen are dismissed as any factor, its Bruce and his E St Band by a Joisey mile.
His 2nd and 3rd albums -- nothing similar, yet The Wild Innocent and E Street Shuffle (1973) and Born To Run (1975) frankly bury Bob Seger's best albums (and I do love me some Seger).
Bruce sang his experiences and life observations in Jersey -- something everyone from LI NY to Jersey to Philly to any beach resort in the country could relation to. I practically lived the song, 'Sandy' when I worked a gig at a Jersey Shore boardwalk back when.
In his earlier work few painted a picture in color detailed better than Springsteen (with all due respect to Bob Seger.)
Once the insane politics of Springsteen are dismissed as any factor, its Bruce and his E St Band by a Joisey mile.
His 2nd and 3rd albums -- nothing similar, yet The Wild Innocent and E Street Shuffle (1973) and Born To Run (1975) frankly bury Bob Seger's best albums (and I do love me some Seger).
Bruce sang his experiences and life observations in Jersey -- something everyone from LI NY to Jersey to Philly to any beach resort in the country could relation to. I practically lived the song, 'Sandy' when I worked a gig at a Jersey Shore boardwalk back when.
In his earlier work few painted a picture in color detailed better than Springsteen (with all due respect to Bob Seger.)
Posted on 5/22/24 at 9:34 am to Liberator
Bruce asks bandmate Danny Federici which song he'd like to perform (as his last one with the band); It was 'Sandy' seen here live. He was dying of cancer and would be gone not long after this. Its bitter-sweet to watch and listen to.
Federici's accordion playing in Sandy was magic, lending it a wistful sentimentality and, "the salt water taffy, the smell and sound of the waves, and the cotton candy" as one poster put it.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:22 am to Flyingtiger82
Seger.
He has a lot of great hits and like others have said some of his earlier stuff is all better than anything Bruce put out.
Smokin OPs
He has a lot of great hits and like others have said some of his earlier stuff is all better than anything Bruce put out.
Smokin OPs
This post was edited on 5/23/24 at 10:39 am
Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:27 am to Liberator
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he Wild Innocent and E Street Shuffle (1973)
lol i hate this album
Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:37 am to dgnx6
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he Wild Innocent and E Street Shuffle (1973)
lol i hate this album
his weaker second album for sure. All long ballads, but it has Rosalita on it, which is an epic tune and for that alone it gets my respect.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:39 am to MAROON
I was going to say thats the only song i like
Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:47 am to Rep520
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I guess I don't see the point of injecting politics into everything. Neither Springsteen or Seger's songs are particularly political.
Born in the USA is 100% political, wtf are you talking about?
I feel like the Springsteen fans are being disingenuous. The guy is a douche nozzle and most of his music fricking sucks. And yes he so badly tries to sing like Bob its fricking terrible, that part throws me off more than his politics.
Ill give an example, i dont mind the music the beat or the lyrics on this its just, what is he doing with his vocals?
i mean im cracking up at "bandlands yew guh a liv a erday"
This post was edited on 5/23/24 at 10:54 am
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:23 am to dgnx6
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i dont mind the music the beat or the lyrics on this its just, what is he doing with his vocals?
i mean im cracking up at "bandlands yew guh a liv a erday"
Heh-heh...
But also give 'em a little credit for a line like, "poor man wanna be rich; rich man wanna be king..."
Look, I get it - Springsteen's a limousine liberal. I can't stomach the guy and his politics circa 2024 either. But let's remember -- Darkness On The Edge Of Town came out 46 years ago back in 1978 when Bruce was still a young man. I think his liberal brainwashing progressed by the early-mid 80s when insufferable lib bandmate Steve Van Zandt influenced him.
As to Springsteen supposedly mimicking Seger, I don't think that's the case (and for the record BOTH straining their vocals grate on me.)
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:28 am to dgnx6
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Born in the USA is 100% political, wtf are you talking about?
I guess we disagree on what political is. Born in the USA is the story of a poor kid turned Vietnam vet coming home to a dying town with no job opportunities and being disillusioned with the way his sacrifice and service is ignored.
I'd class it as political if it were placing blame on a party or political figure. It doesn't, it just speaks to an experience a lot of veterans lived through and doesn't attribute it to anything. Heck, the narrator even sort of blames himself by saying he had to go to Vietnam to get out of a hometown jam.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 4:20 pm to Allthatfades
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Nebraska is an outstanding album
This!
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