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re: Playing your guitar, "Offishal" check in thread. Do you feel like I do?
Posted on 2/1/20 at 6:44 pm to TigrrrDad
Posted on 2/1/20 at 6:44 pm to TigrrrDad
There are plenty of YouTube videos on how to set up a electric guitar, unless the guitar has a more serious issue such as a worn nut, un-level frets, doing a basic setup for action height, and intonation including truss rod adjustment is within the ability of most guitar players.
This post was edited on 2/1/20 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 2/1/20 at 7:18 pm to Ray Penpillage
Thanks. A Grosh has been on my list for a decade.
I’ll have til the end of the road along with my 2 MJTs
I’ll have til the end of the road along with my 2 MJTs
Posted on 2/1/20 at 8:14 pm to Kcprogguitar
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Got a new guitar.
Oh, that's nice. I've never played one of those. I like that color too.
Probably going buy a used Fender resonator acoustic this week. My friend has one for sale that is really nice and the resonator works great. cherry sunburst top.
Posted on 2/1/20 at 8:17 pm to Devious
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Man this thread reminds me of how lazy I am when it comes to playing these days
I have to constantly get something new to play, to stay motivated.
Posted on 2/1/20 at 8:43 pm to auggie
There are plenty of YouTube videos on how to set up a electric guitar, unless the guitar has a problem doing a basic setup including truss rod adjustment is within the ability of most guitar players
This is correct, but let me add a few things for the aspiring/new DIY'er ...
* there is a lot of misinformation on YouTube, on message boards, even in guitar magazine columns by "experts." A significant amount of biz I get is from folks who watch one five minute video, think that one information source is biblical, and get just enough of a confidence boost they think they are the reincarnate of Leo Fender. Please ... watch MANY videos on the same specific subject, and look for common denominators from multiple sources. Duplicity is a good indicator the information is sound.
* use the proper tools. I cannot emphasize it enough. Tool improvisation is a catalyst for stripped truss rod nuts, stripped heads, broken off screws, etc. Don't make the job harder for yourself, or more expensive when you have to get a guy like me involved to clean up the carnage.
* learn with crash test dummies, not your valuable guitars. Anyone who works on guitars that tells you they didn't destroy a few guitars, or at least do as much damage as good early in the game, is lying to you. Go to a pawn shop and pick up a cheap and in dire need strat-style or tele-style, and a similar basket case cheap acoustic. Learn on those, knowing it's okay if you screw up. It's actually part of the process.
This is correct, but let me add a few things for the aspiring/new DIY'er ...
* there is a lot of misinformation on YouTube, on message boards, even in guitar magazine columns by "experts." A significant amount of biz I get is from folks who watch one five minute video, think that one information source is biblical, and get just enough of a confidence boost they think they are the reincarnate of Leo Fender. Please ... watch MANY videos on the same specific subject, and look for common denominators from multiple sources. Duplicity is a good indicator the information is sound.
* use the proper tools. I cannot emphasize it enough. Tool improvisation is a catalyst for stripped truss rod nuts, stripped heads, broken off screws, etc. Don't make the job harder for yourself, or more expensive when you have to get a guy like me involved to clean up the carnage.
* learn with crash test dummies, not your valuable guitars. Anyone who works on guitars that tells you they didn't destroy a few guitars, or at least do as much damage as good early in the game, is lying to you. Go to a pawn shop and pick up a cheap and in dire need strat-style or tele-style, and a similar basket case cheap acoustic. Learn on those, knowing it's okay if you screw up. It's actually part of the process.
Posted on 2/1/20 at 9:11 pm to TheFretShack
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* learn with crash test dummies, not your valuable guitars. Anyone who works on guitars that tells you they didn't destroy a few guitars, or at least do as much damage as good early in the game, is lying to you. Go to a pawn shop and pick up a cheap and in dire need strat-style or tele-style, and a similar basket case cheap acoustic. Learn on those, knowing it's okay if you screw up. It's actually part of the process.
Exactly, and getting to know the guys at local shops like yours, that can help you with some used take off parts. or help you order the right thing that you need also.
Don't use cheap tools either, use quality screwdrivers and allen wrenches.
I just noticed that sweetwater is selling some "Build it yourself" electric guitar kits too, Look like maybe Melody maker, or Les Paul Jr. knock offs, ( I haven't looked at them close, just saw the ads on my screen), that might be a good way to start off too.
This post was edited on 2/2/20 at 9:44 am
Posted on 2/2/20 at 9:04 am to auggie
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I have to constantly get something new to play, to stay motivated.
Same here. I put the guitar down for years. I figured out that trying to learn new / easy songs keeps me playing regularly.
It also helped that I got the action lowered and it made it much easier to play barre chords. I used to get so frustrated with those and give up. I’ve had the same Takamine G Series since I started playing 16 years ago.
Posted on 2/2/20 at 9:12 am to SUB
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I’ve had the same Takamine G Series since I started playing 16 years ago.
I have to keep getting different guitars, every few weeks, seems like the only way that I will keep playing, is to get on a different one. Or changing something.
Supposed to sit in with a local 3 piece band this week as kind of a utility guy, a little guitar, some Harmonica and vocals, maybe some keyboard. We'll see how it turns out. Hoping it might make me work a little harder.
I've got an older Takamine Jap made N-10 that sounds and plays perfectly, but I still get bored with it.
I don't really spend much time, learning other people's work. I just borrow little bits and pieces. Always just trying to get my own, just right. Hoping, working with this band might take me in some new direction.
My friend has a great sounding Fender resonator acoustic that he wants to sell to me, and I want it. He told me to bring it home with me and play it a few days, and I didn't do it. Been kicking myself all weekend.
I don't know much about that type of guitar, but when I first played it a couple of weeks ago, it didn't really have much of a resonator sound, just sounded like a decent acoustic. It has a screw that goes down through the middle of the resonator, I asked him if that was an adjustment. He said he would play with it a little and see what happened. He loosened it up a little, and Friday morning, it was like a different guitar. Gonna have to trade him for it now I guess. He really likes a nice little Peavey T-15 that I have, so we might get something worked out.
This post was edited on 2/2/20 at 9:59 am
Posted on 2/3/20 at 3:18 am to auggie
I'd love to have more acoustics.I went to Guitar Center a couple of years ago and got a Martin D-28.I love it.
The 1st good acoustic I bought was a Guild DV-4.Sweet tone.I love Guilds.
I get the Bi-Monthly "Acoustic Guitar" magazine and I want all the guitars featured in it.
Since it went to every 2 months,it's a better made magazine.The old ones with the staples weren't made to last any time.
I'm looking at my guitar right now.I try to learn song after song.The hard part is thinking of songs that are in my wheel-house.
eta: Blizzard of Chizz;thank you for all the tips on Barre Chords.I haven't put it into practice yet,but I can visualize what you said about using my forearm and body,so to take all the work from my fingers.
It'll take time,but you've given me a plan.Thanks.
Here's my Studio.

The 1st good acoustic I bought was a Guild DV-4.Sweet tone.I love Guilds.
I get the Bi-Monthly "Acoustic Guitar" magazine and I want all the guitars featured in it.
Since it went to every 2 months,it's a better made magazine.The old ones with the staples weren't made to last any time.
I'm looking at my guitar right now.I try to learn song after song.The hard part is thinking of songs that are in my wheel-house.
eta: Blizzard of Chizz;thank you for all the tips on Barre Chords.I haven't put it into practice yet,but I can visualize what you said about using my forearm and body,so to take all the work from my fingers.
It'll take time,but you've given me a plan.Thanks.
Here's my Studio.

This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 5:05 am
Posted on 2/3/20 at 5:57 am to auggie
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auggie
Im ready to test my Taylor out on a amp. Have never connected it before. May ask the guy Im taking lessons from to test it this Wednesday night.
Then of course I will buy one.
Posted on 2/3/20 at 6:49 am to LanierSpots
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Then of course I will buy one.
Good deal, you're going to like using effects, and being able to adjust your tone.
At home, it's not so much about volume for me, but just being able to hear myself coming back from a different place in the room, is pretty cool.
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:10 am to tidalmouse
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I'd love to have more acoustics.
You've already got a great one, you don't need much more. A really good parlor guitar is nice to have, just because it's so comfortable to sit around and play, but make sure you get one that sounds great. I picked up a Martin Parlor the other day at a shop and was really underwhelmed, it sounded like a 200 dollar Yammy, but it was 1200 bucks.
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:19 am to auggie
That's the size that I would get.A Parlor Guitar;or close to that size.
I've got the guitar I wanted.The Martin D-28.It was my Holy Grail moment.
I'd love a another guitar to play with.It doesn't have to be that expensive.
Mine is Rosewood so I'd probably look at some different woods.Mahogany,Walnut,????
I've got the guitar I wanted.The Martin D-28.It was my Holy Grail moment.
I'd love a another guitar to play with.It doesn't have to be that expensive.
Mine is Rosewood so I'd probably look at some different woods.Mahogany,Walnut,????
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:37 am to tidalmouse
This is the parlor guitar that I have, and it's a beast. These are all solid construction. Mahogany back and sides Solid Adirondack Spruce top.
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It blows every other parlor guitar that I have played, out of the water. This one has electronics, mine doesn't. It really sounds like a full size guitar. People can't believe it when they hear it. The quality of the work is incredible too. Made in Canada.
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It blows every other parlor guitar that I have played, out of the water. This one has electronics, mine doesn't. It really sounds like a full size guitar. People can't believe it when they hear it. The quality of the work is incredible too. Made in Canada.
This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 7:44 am
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:53 am to auggie
Nice.Adirondack Spruce is usually really expensive.
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:05 am to tidalmouse
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Nice.Adirondack Spruce is usually really expensive.
Somehow, The Godin Companies, Simon and Patrick, Seagull, Norman, A&L, get their woods as part of Canadian Government subsidies. That's how they can build quality guitars at lower prices, compared to U.S. made.
I'm sure too, that Canada still has a lot more remaining, old growth Adirondack, just because they didn't have the ability to harvest it back in WW2.
FretShack pointed out on here a while back, that a big reason why U.S. Adirondack got used up in WW2, It was the perfect wood for airplane propellers, Light wood with a very tight grain due to very cold winters.
I speculate a little further myself, that the very best of it was growing during the Mini-ice age, a period during the colonial times that had summers with temps that were far below normal. Growth would have been minimal.
This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 8:22 am
Posted on 2/3/20 at 9:11 am to Funky Tide 8
Old growth forest species in general have tighter grain, and you don't have to go back milennia to find it. The catalyst was tighter tree spans and all the trees fighting alongside other flora for the same sunlight, water, soil nutrients, and canopy space. The trees simply grew slower. The wood tends to be more rigid - and subsequently resonant - ithout weighing more. That was the draw for Adi in the early 1900s for both luthiers and the aircraft builders.
Very evident visually comparing old growth mahogany on old Gibson guitars, wood that was harvested in the 1900s in Latin America, compared to Asian plantation-grown mahogany you see on Chinese, Indonesian, Korean guitars. Same goes for North American and European old growth spruce compared to spruces that are grown with expedited harvests in mind.
It's said part of the reason Gibson went to pancake bodies in the 70s is because old growth mahogany sources were dwindling, and their wood guys saw pancaking smaller planks as a way to still get and stretch OGM mahogany supplies - board feet could be acquired easier in thinner planks and doubling them up. Corksniffers scowl over pancakes but if you can hear the difference, you have much better ears that me. My '76 "Standard Deluxe" LP surely doesn't suffer due to its pancake. It's one of the best sounding LPs I've ever experienced.
Very evident visually comparing old growth mahogany on old Gibson guitars, wood that was harvested in the 1900s in Latin America, compared to Asian plantation-grown mahogany you see on Chinese, Indonesian, Korean guitars. Same goes for North American and European old growth spruce compared to spruces that are grown with expedited harvests in mind.
It's said part of the reason Gibson went to pancake bodies in the 70s is because old growth mahogany sources were dwindling, and their wood guys saw pancaking smaller planks as a way to still get and stretch OGM mahogany supplies - board feet could be acquired easier in thinner planks and doubling them up. Corksniffers scowl over pancakes but if you can hear the difference, you have much better ears that me. My '76 "Standard Deluxe" LP surely doesn't suffer due to its pancake. It's one of the best sounding LPs I've ever experienced.
Posted on 2/3/20 at 9:58 am to TheFretShack
I agree, about the slower growth due to competition. It also makes for straighter longer trunks, with higher growing limbs. Another thing about tree farming though, that has to be taken into account vs. old growth forest, is that the seedlings used are genetically propagated, selected from the fastest growing trees. It's not entirely about growing conditions.
What makes me speculate about the Mini-ice age thing(mid 1600s to 1800) is watching some core samples being taken from trees in old growth forest.
You could absolutely see the difference in the growth during those years, in the same tree. Almost no growth at all.
Not very scientific on my part, just speculation. Driving around in the Northeast, you still see some isolated HUGE spruce trees, that you know are several hundreds of years old. I don't know for sure if these would be Adirondack, but the location, makes me think that they would be.
Also agree with you about the pancake construction on that Les Paul not being a detracting factor, or on any electric guitar. When it comes to the acoustics though, I'm still going to buy all solid when I can afford it, but, lamination isn't the deal breaker that it use to be.
Probably going to buy a laminated Fender resonator tomorrow.
What makes me speculate about the Mini-ice age thing(mid 1600s to 1800) is watching some core samples being taken from trees in old growth forest.
You could absolutely see the difference in the growth during those years, in the same tree. Almost no growth at all.
Not very scientific on my part, just speculation. Driving around in the Northeast, you still see some isolated HUGE spruce trees, that you know are several hundreds of years old. I don't know for sure if these would be Adirondack, but the location, makes me think that they would be.
Also agree with you about the pancake construction on that Les Paul not being a detracting factor, or on any electric guitar. When it comes to the acoustics though, I'm still going to buy all solid when I can afford it, but, lamination isn't the deal breaker that it use to be.
Probably going to buy a laminated Fender resonator tomorrow.
This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 10:24 am
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:15 pm to auggie
I have a Yairi DY-38, laminated back/sides, solid top, and would put it up against just about any other acoustic below $3k.
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