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re: Official: Guitar beginners question and answer thread.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:37 pm to bgoodwin
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:37 pm to bgoodwin
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In those "open" chords the nut serves the same function as your index finger when you play a barre chord.
This is a very important concept in unlocking those hundreds of chords.
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:43 pm to composerdave
I appreciate everyones knowledge dropping in here.
If you dont mind me asking, what is yalls experience? How long have you been playing? When did you start? Gigs? Professional? ect.
If the above will start a dick measuring contest, forget i asked
If you dont mind me asking, what is yalls experience? How long have you been playing? When did you start? Gigs? Professional? ect.
If the above will start a dick measuring contest, forget i asked
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:58 pm to Kvothe
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If you dont mind me asking, what is yalls experience? How long have you been playing? When did you start? Gigs? Professional? ect.
I started in my teenaged years and am now in my 40s. Never gigged or played with a band. I've jammed with friends but that's about it. It's always been just a hobby for me. Entirely self taught and still erasing bad habits from my early years. I strongly encourage every beginner to seek out a good teacher.
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 2/12/20 at 4:21 pm to Kvothe
Started when I was 14. Typical garage rock bands in high school. Joined a jazz showband in college, played all over the southeast from Daytona to New Orleans. Recorded a few prog-rock demos in the 90s. Currently strum an acoustic in church on Sundays and gig with a classic country/southern rock band.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 8:32 pm to bgoodwin
Opens beginner thread. Sees music theory convo.
I'll just stick to my Hal Leonard books until I get what you guys are talking about
I'll just stick to my Hal Leonard books until I get what you guys are talking about
Posted on 2/13/20 at 12:58 am to Devious
Don’t get discouraged! I just started and theory answers all the questions you may have when you start fingering chords and your brain is 50
Steps ahead. It connects the dots for me.
Steps ahead. It connects the dots for me.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:19 am to LanierSpots
Lanier,you're progressing faster than I did.
As the old saying goes,"Don't forget to smell the flowers along the way".
Have fun.You'll learn a lot of new Chords in the process of trying to play Songs that you like.
I can't tell you how many times I heard,"Sounds good.What was it?"
It'll take a little while,but,you'll have calluses that will allow you to play as long as you wish.
As the old saying goes,"Don't forget to smell the flowers along the way".
Have fun.You'll learn a lot of new Chords in the process of trying to play Songs that you like.
I can't tell you how many times I heard,"Sounds good.What was it?"
It'll take a little while,but,you'll have calluses that will allow you to play as long as you wish.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 12:36 pm to Devious
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Opens beginner thread. Sees music theory convo.
Man just overlook that stuff on here like I am.
I hope some guys will post some real beginner stuff that will help us true beginners. I had my 3rd lesson last night. We are working on changing from chord to chord right now. I can play a lot of the main chords but changing between them is my drag right now.
He wrote this one out for me that I will be working on all week. Its Hallelujah. The chords and the progression. Plus a little picking drill to go with it. I think I can do this. I just need to work on it. "C" and "F" are new for me and C is a little of a stretch for my fingers. I can get there but not as wide as I need to be.
Sorry about the ink showing through from the back of the page. Dude has a stamp and its pretty dark.
Then he threw me a bone knowing I am a huge Gilmour/Floyd fan and set up us learning Breath. Honestly, I believe I can get this one pretty quick. Just need to work on my speed a little and getting the chords clear
Anyway. I am taking it slow but still trying to learn some things that I like along with the things he is asking me to learn.
Thought I would share..
Posted on 2/13/20 at 12:54 pm to LanierSpots
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Hallelujah
Tell your teacher that is a 6/8 feel, not 3/4. You have to make it awkward to get 3/4 our of that song...
Great tunes. Get it man! Keep working!
This post was edited on 2/13/20 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 2/14/20 at 5:15 am to LanierSpots
1 of the simplest Songs that I know is Tom Petty's "Breakdown".
Just bounce back and forth Am,G,at the slow pace of the Song.
F C E7
I get the feeling you want.
Then back to the Am,G bounce
The Chorus is F,C,G -- F,C,G--- F,C,G,--- F,C,E7,A7....
then back to Am,G.
Just bounce back and forth Am,G,at the slow pace of the Song.
F C E7
I get the feeling you want.
Then back to the Am,G bounce
The Chorus is F,C,G -- F,C,G--- F,C,G,--- F,C,E7,A7....
then back to Am,G.
This post was edited on 2/14/20 at 7:40 am
Posted on 2/14/20 at 5:31 am to LanierSpots
man, Hallelujah is a hell of a song ,It's worth learning.
You are double lucky.
You are double lucky.
This post was edited on 2/14/20 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 2/14/20 at 1:41 pm to auggie
A song that can be played with literally two chords is America's "Horse With No Name"
The only part that might be challenging is the strumming, but I think that's why it's a great early song.
These are the two chords (although in the wrong order in this pic)
A Horse With No Name chords
Don't let the crazy name of D6add9/F# scare you off. The chord is WAY easier to play than to say.
Just alternate between Em and the D6add9/F#. 4 counts each. Notice that you can use the same fingers for each chord. Play the Em with your 2nd and 3rd fingers, then for the D... move each finger way from each other by one string.
Since the movement for the chords is so minimal, it provides a great opportunity to work on the strumming.
The pattern is kind of a shuffle (similar to the blues shuffle feel). You can start with a straight feel to get it under your fingers, then work toward a basic shuffle feel. Eventually, if you want, you can work to how it's played on the record (muting, syncopation on the 2nd chord etc).
The only part that might be challenging is the strumming, but I think that's why it's a great early song.
These are the two chords (although in the wrong order in this pic)
A Horse With No Name chords
Don't let the crazy name of D6add9/F# scare you off. The chord is WAY easier to play than to say.
Just alternate between Em and the D6add9/F#. 4 counts each. Notice that you can use the same fingers for each chord. Play the Em with your 2nd and 3rd fingers, then for the D... move each finger way from each other by one string.
Since the movement for the chords is so minimal, it provides a great opportunity to work on the strumming.
The pattern is kind of a shuffle (similar to the blues shuffle feel). You can start with a straight feel to get it under your fingers, then work toward a basic shuffle feel. Eventually, if you want, you can work to how it's played on the record (muting, syncopation on the 2nd chord etc).
Posted on 2/14/20 at 3:06 pm to composerdave
Ya know, the Em was the first thing that I learned. Open it, close it, just working on those top 4 strings. Getting a rhythm going with your right hand and those two fingers, then learning that you don't even have to put them down or pick them up, together at the same time. Just keep that rhythm going, listen to the different sounds that happen, as your fingers hit those strings, with varying speed and power, and lift up again, with the same variations.
It's clumsy at first, but you start throwing other notes in there for flavor, using your index and little finger of your left hand and timing your picking with your right. Just listen to how it sounds, as you put those fingers down and pick them up differently.
It's clumsy at first, but you start throwing other notes in there for flavor, using your index and little finger of your left hand and timing your picking with your right. Just listen to how it sounds, as you put those fingers down and pick them up differently.
This post was edited on 2/14/20 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 2/14/20 at 4:51 pm to composerdave
Great recommendation man. Thanks for that. That is a great song and like you said, it it pretty easy once I get the strumming down.
As I try to learn to play, these little nuggets are fantastic for my confidence. That is a song that I know and i can hear the song in my head as I play those two chords
Thanks for posting that
I watched the "how to" by Marty and he explained it as you did. He also sets up the strumming which Is not terrible difficult for a beginner but Is not simple either.
I will impress my wife with that one tonight.
As I try to learn to play, these little nuggets are fantastic for my confidence. That is a song that I know and i can hear the song in my head as I play those two chords
Thanks for posting that
I watched the "how to" by Marty and he explained it as you did. He also sets up the strumming which Is not terrible difficult for a beginner but Is not simple either.
I will impress my wife with that one tonight.
Posted on 2/15/20 at 4:27 am to LanierSpots
Have you gone over what notes are in these chords . . .
. . . or just finger them this way?
(not trying to be rude, ie. serious question)
. . . or just finger them this way?
(not trying to be rude, ie. serious question)
Posted on 2/15/20 at 6:11 am to auggie
God...I wish this made any sense to me.
I have song structure down. I know what sounds, or feel of sounds, should come. I can vocalize it, give the tone...I just can’t make the guitar agree.
Why the shite is it so elusive? How can i understand music and not guitar?
I have song structure down. I know what sounds, or feel of sounds, should come. I can vocalize it, give the tone...I just can’t make the guitar agree.
Why the shite is it so elusive? How can i understand music and not guitar?
Posted on 2/15/20 at 7:28 am to fr33manator
I'm the opposite fr33.I don't know any musical theory.I can't read music.
But,I've had a guitar in my hands for 18 years.Thousands of hours.
I just play.
But,I've had a guitar in my hands for 18 years.Thousands of hours.
I just play.
Posted on 2/15/20 at 8:59 am to tidalmouse
I'm like you. Can't read music. Started drumming when I was 9, guitar when I was 14, dabbled with bass. I just play what i feel. Works for me.
Posted on 2/15/20 at 9:11 am to fr33manator
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I have song structure down. I know what sounds, or feel of sounds, should come. I can vocalize it, give the tone...I just can’t make the guitar agree. Why the shite is it so elusive? How can i understand music and not guitar?
What are you trying to do? And how are you going about it?
Are you trying to learn covers? Or trying to write new material?
If you are trying to write, you really have to know how you want it to sound, You kind of have to learn lots of covers, that have the type of sound that you want.
I have been told, that there are computer programs out there, that allow you to sing into your mic, and they will analyze your voice and tell you what chords to play.
I don't know if that's true, but it might be worth looking into.
Learning to do exactly what you want, takes a long time, it's easier now, than ever, but it still takes time and practice.
What kind of music do you want to play?
Posted on 2/15/20 at 10:01 am to auggie
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What are you trying to do? And how are you going about it?
So songs come to me, almost daily. The lyrics and a basic harmony just pop into my head, and I’ll start writing. And once I have the lyrics and rhythm down I’ll make a rough vocal recording, acapella.
quote:
I have been told, that there are computer programs out there, that allow you to sing into your mic, and they will analyze your voice and tell you what chords to play. I don't know if that's true, but it might be worth looking into. Learning to do exactly what you want, takes a long time, it's easier now, than ever, but it still takes time and practice
That would be interesting.
quote:
What kind of music do you want to play?
My songs range from classic sounding country to modern country to folk to blues to big band to rock.
It really just happens. I don’t think about it, I’ll just get the words in my head and I can’t stop until it’s done. And then I try to make the guitar sing and I really just can’t get past that hump.
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