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re: Nashville claims Chris Stapleton the way that the South claims Texas.
Posted on 11/19/20 at 12:08 am to auggie
Posted on 11/19/20 at 12:08 am to auggie
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That's because the next big pop music fad hasn't come along yet.
Billie Eilish, Harry Styles, and K-Pop were making serious in-roads there for a minute, but I agree.
Posted on 11/19/20 at 5:44 am to kingbob
Yeah, It'll happen soon, it's coming, and music city will be full of old people again on weekends, stopping in the middle of the 65/40 merge.
Posted on 11/19/20 at 8:40 am to auggie
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Yeah, It'll happen soon, it's coming, and music city will be full of old people again on weekends, stopping in the middle of the 65/40 merge.
I think that Bro country in 2020 is in the same position as hair metal circa 1989. Something is about to steal its young audience, and will do so rapidly. The collapse will be sudden, unexpected, and catastrophic. I just hope that whatever replaces bro country is something that doesn’t suck even worse.
Posted on 11/19/20 at 3:21 pm to turnpiketiger
East Texas is definitely the South. Just like southern W.Va.is.
Posted on 11/19/20 at 5:06 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
Texas is the South. Anyone that thinks otherwise is ignorant of history.
Posted on 11/19/20 at 5:15 pm to The Balinese Club
It sorta is and sorta isn’t, same thing goes for West Virginia, Oklahoma, and south Louisiana. East Texas definitely feels southern, but San Antonio sure as heck doesn’t. Texas is kinda its own little place.
Posted on 11/19/20 at 8:27 pm to auggie
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That's all fine and good, except that Stapleton was a Nashville staff writer at first, and his breakthrough album was produced at RCA Studio A, using Nashville session players. It's fashionable to bash Nashville though, so a lot of people do it.
Correct on everything but the personnel used on Traveler. That's his band, including Derrick Mixon from West Monroe on drums. Those guys are far from being "Nashville session players"
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:17 pm to geauxbrown
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Correct on everything but the personnel used on Traveler. That's his band, including Derrick Mixon from West Monroe on drums. Those guys are far from being "Nashville session players"
Well, that would be a pretty rare thing for a yet unproven(at the time) artist, usually they use studio musicians for the records, but maybe since Stapleton has been around Nashville so much, he may have had more leeway than other artists have.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 1:01 am to turnpiketiger
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Chris Stapleton is not the typical mainstream Nashville country garbage like Kain brown. He makes real, authentic country music. Nashville radio feels the need to claim him and they play his music along the likes of the Luke Bryan’s of the world. It’s inconsistent. Stapleton actually had a song on the new record called “Nashville” about how it isn’t what it used to be and how he’s done with it. My point here is, if mainstream radio can play Stapleton, why can’t they play Ryan Bingham, Sturgil Simpson and Colter Wall? You can’t play a legit country single from an album then turn around and play some pop/rap/cross over bullshite. Nashville needs to stay away from Chris Stapleton.
Lmfao. You’re one dumb son of a bitch.
“ In 2001, Stapleton moved to Nashville, Tennessee, to pursue a music career. As a songwriter, he signed with the publishing house Sea Gayle Music, a deal he got shortly after moving to Nashville.”
“As of 2018, Stapleton has amassed credits writing and co-writing over 170 songs.[7] He has co-written six number-one country songs[8] including Kenny Chesney's five-week number-one "Never Wanted Nothing More", Josh Turner's "Your Man", George Strait's "Love's Gonna Make It Alright", and Luke Bryan's "Drink a Beer".[9] His songs have appeared on many artists albums including Adele, Brad Paisley, and Dierks Bentley.
And actually, a good amount of his music is more R&B/Soul than it is country.
This post was edited on 11/20/20 at 1:09 am
Posted on 11/20/20 at 1:17 am to BigOrangeBri
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And actually, a good amount of his music is more R&B/Soul than it is country.
There sho aint nuttin wrong wit dat, I would love it to go more in that direction, as long as we're talking about the old stuff. Country and old Soul are so close... Percy Sledge taught me, at the old Carrousel Club.
This post was edited on 11/20/20 at 1:37 am
Posted on 11/20/20 at 6:53 am to BigOrangeBri
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Bryan's "Drink a Beer".
To be fair, thats probably Lukes best song.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 8:48 am to auggie
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Well, that would be a pretty rare thing
Maybe, but I know the bass player (who also played with Stapleton in The Jompson Brothers) and that's what happened
:csb:
Posted on 11/20/20 at 9:52 am to auggie
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Well, that would be a pretty rare thing for a yet unproven(at the time) artist, usually they use studio musicians for the records, but maybe since Stapleton has been around Nashville so much, he may have had more leeway than other artists have.
It would be, if Stapleton was unproven. He was only one of the most celebrated songwriters in the industry at the time and had already been gigging and touring with his band before recording the album. It’s not like he was someone who came completely out of nowhere. He was extremely well known by all the big industry players in Nashville before “Traveler”.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 10:05 am to kingbob
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It would be, if Stapleton was unproven. He was only one of the most celebrated songwriters in the industry at the time and had already been gigging and touring with his band before recording the album. It’s not like he was someone who came completely out of nowhere. He was extremely well known by all the big industry players in Nashville before “Traveler”.
That's kind of the point, and the premise of the whole thread. He's a Nashville guy, and not just some newby singer that showed up and made a record, then said frick this place. He's part of it.
Now, going further into that, he spent his time in Nashville, learned the ropes and paid his dues. If the Nashville Machine gives him a leg up, it aint for just no reason. Then, you've got other folks, they just went out, bypassed Nashville, did things however they wanted, got semi- successful, then want Nashville to boost them over the top, and put them on the radio.
I was in both The Army, and Marine Corps. I was in The Army first. When I joined The Marine Corps, they didn't just let me show up and give some new uniforms, just because I could already run and shoot OK.
This post was edited on 11/20/20 at 11:01 am
Posted on 11/20/20 at 9:33 pm to auggie
Texas is not the south. Nobody from the south would say Texas is.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 11:17 pm to turnpiketiger
Sucks for Nashville. Stapleton and Sturgill are both Kentucky proud. Deal with it Tennessee.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 11:29 pm to auggie
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Well that would be pretty rare.
Yep, my friend James Cook (from Monroe) plays bass for Luke Bryan and has been with him for years. He’s yet to see the inside of a studio with Luke except for cutting tracks for TV.
Guaranteed Chris had to fight some label guys to record with his own band on his first solo album. Made me respect him a lot for doing that.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 11:37 pm to auggie
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The Carrousel Club...
My old man said he saw Percy many a night at the Red Dog in Monroe. Used to play behind him quite a bit.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 11:43 pm to auggie
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That's kind of the point, and the premise of the whole thread. He's a Nashville guy, and not just some newby singer that showed up and made a record, then said frick this place. He's part of it.
Now, going further into that, he spent his time in Nashville, learned the ropes and paid his dues. If the Nashville Machine gives him a leg up, it aint for just no reason. Then, you've got other folks, they just went out, bypassed Nashville, did things however they wanted, got semi- successful, then want Nashville to boost them over the top, and put them on the radio.
I was in both The Army, and Marine Corps. I was in The Army first. When I joined The Marine Corps, they didn't just let me show up and give some new uniforms, just because I could already run and shoot OK.
Perfectly said.
Posted on 11/21/20 at 5:26 am to kingbob
Country music use to be called hill music in the early years back when the Carter family started recording in the late 20s. It had quite a bit of Irish folk music influence. Then in the 30s Jimmie Rodgers started getting big and he was the most famous country and blues artist of his time. He was a big influence on many genres of music. He is in many hall of fames and so are the Carter family which are the first family of country music.
Then the Hawaiian pedal steel guitar and was later implemented to give it the distinct sound.
Nashville embraced the cowboy image in the 30s/40s and then westerns took off in Hollywood.
Hank Williams Sr. was the first modern country artist and the genre began to gain even more popularity in the United States and even influenced some members of the Beatles.
Then in the 50s it was no longer called hill music but country and western music.
The genre survived the wave of rock music in the mid 50s and then exploded in the 60s with what was called the Nashville sound.
But in the early 80s with the success of the movie urban cowboy, Nashville started pushing more pop sounding country music and many songs dropped the pedal steel guitar and the fiddle.
So traditional country music artists of that time were ignored until listeners began to protest of the direction of the genre. Then traditionalists such as George strait and Randy Travis gave it new life in the middle and late 80s. The 90s were a big explosion of country bands that use to be only solo artists.
Now it has no folk or blues influence and it is all garbage because they left the foundation of what started it all and the message it was trying to relay.
Then the Hawaiian pedal steel guitar and was later implemented to give it the distinct sound.
Nashville embraced the cowboy image in the 30s/40s and then westerns took off in Hollywood.
Hank Williams Sr. was the first modern country artist and the genre began to gain even more popularity in the United States and even influenced some members of the Beatles.
Then in the 50s it was no longer called hill music but country and western music.
The genre survived the wave of rock music in the mid 50s and then exploded in the 60s with what was called the Nashville sound.
But in the early 80s with the success of the movie urban cowboy, Nashville started pushing more pop sounding country music and many songs dropped the pedal steel guitar and the fiddle.
So traditional country music artists of that time were ignored until listeners began to protest of the direction of the genre. Then traditionalists such as George strait and Randy Travis gave it new life in the middle and late 80s. The 90s were a big explosion of country bands that use to be only solo artists.
Now it has no folk or blues influence and it is all garbage because they left the foundation of what started it all and the message it was trying to relay.
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