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Nashville claims Chris Stapleton the way that the South claims Texas.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 6:51 am
Posted on 11/18/20 at 6:51 am
When in reality, it’s a one way street. This is an analogy that always comes to mind when I see Stapleton mentioned in mainstream circles.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 7:38 am to turnpiketiger
Finish your thought riddle master.
If that is a finished thought? Prevagen.!!
Lol
If that is a finished thought? Prevagen.!!
Lol
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:22 am to turnpiketiger
frick Texas, hate driving across that mfr
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 10:23 am
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:59 am to turnpiketiger
The western line of the South runs through Minden and Lake Charles.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:09 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Chris Stapleton is not the typical mainstream Nashville country garbage like Kain brown. He makes real, authentic country music. Nashville radio feels the need to claim him and they play his music along the likes of the Luke Bryan’s of the world. It’s inconsistent. Stapleton actually had a song on the new record called “Nashville” about how it isn’t what it used to be and how he’s done with it. My point here is, if mainstream radio can play Stapleton, why can’t they play Ryan Bingham, Sturgil Simpson and Colter Wall? You can’t play a legit country single from an album then turn around and play some pop/rap/cross over bullshite. Nashville needs to stay away from Chris Stapleton.
Now as for Texas, in a lot of statistics and other rankings, people like the lump it in there with the Deep South just because part of the state is geographically nearby. Culturally Texas is its own thing. Actually would be more like a southwestern or Great Plains state if we’re breaking it down. The south can quit claiming Texas and Nashville can quit claiming Chris Stapleton.
Now as for Texas, in a lot of statistics and other rankings, people like the lump it in there with the Deep South just because part of the state is geographically nearby. Culturally Texas is its own thing. Actually would be more like a southwestern or Great Plains state if we’re breaking it down. The south can quit claiming Texas and Nashville can quit claiming Chris Stapleton.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:11 pm to SEClint
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frick Texas, hate driving across that mfr
Yeah I’m sure the mostly smooth paved roads and high speed limits are awful. I bet the infrastructure in crack smoking Portland and Nola is much more traveler friendly.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 2:06 pm to turnpiketiger
well, he did attended Vanderbilt, so Nashville can have that claim :rimshot:
Posted on 11/18/20 at 2:14 pm to Legba007
To hell with Chris Stapleton for what he did to Tennessee Whiskey.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 2:29 pm to turnpiketiger
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Chris Stapleton is not the typical mainstream Nashville country garbage like Kain brown. He makes real, authentic country music. Nashville radio feels the need to claim him and they play his music along the likes of the Luke Bryan’s of the world. It’s inconsistent. Stapleton actually had a song on the new record called “Nashville” about how it isn’t what it used to be and how he’s done with it. My point here is, if mainstream radio can play Stapleton, why can’t they play Ryan Bingham, Sturgil Simpson and Colter Wall? You can’t play a legit country single from an album then turn around and play some pop/rap/cross over bullshite. Nashville needs to stay away from Chris Stapleton. Now as for Texas, in a lot of statistics and other rankings, people like the lump it in there with the Deep South just because part of the state is geographically nearby. Culturally Texas is its own thing. Actually would be more like a southwestern or Great Plains state if we’re breaking it down. The south can quit claiming Texas and Nashville can quit claiming Chris Stapleton.
That's all fine and good, except that Stapleton was a Nashville staff writer at first, and his breakthrough album was produced at RCA Studio A, using Nashville session players. It's fashionable to bash Nashville though, so a lot of people do it.
As far as Texas goes, it was liberated from Mexico, by men from the deep south. Not that I give a crap, but let's not ignore real history.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 2:44 pm to turnpiketiger
Stapleton is a rare (unique) blend of country, rock/southern rock, soul, and (with the Steeldrivers) bluegrass. That makes him hard to pigeonhole.
His songwriting credits are all over pop-country albums (Darius Rucker, Tim McGraw, Kenny Chesney, George Strait, etc.) So when he released his own album, Nashville had to pay a it of attention and promote it - especially when the promotional single was a very well known, and established, hit song.
If he hadn't had those two things going for him, he wouldn't have gotten near the attention (or longevity) that he has from the country industry and radio. Think about the other albums that came out around that time and were just as well received both critically and from a consumer standpoint - Southeastern and Metamodern Sounds in Country Music. Both great albums, but neither got the mainstream promotion or recognition as Traveller, and Isbell nor Simpson have had the accolades from the mainstream side.
As for the song Nashville, according to an interview I read, Stapleton says it's not really about the industry, but about the city and his growth in popularity. Apparently his house in town was starting to be a standard stop on the "tour of the stars' homes" bus tour, and he couldn't even go outside and play with his kids in the yard without people clamoring around for pictures. So he picked up and moved way the hell out into the country.
His songwriting credits are all over pop-country albums (Darius Rucker, Tim McGraw, Kenny Chesney, George Strait, etc.) So when he released his own album, Nashville had to pay a it of attention and promote it - especially when the promotional single was a very well known, and established, hit song.
If he hadn't had those two things going for him, he wouldn't have gotten near the attention (or longevity) that he has from the country industry and radio. Think about the other albums that came out around that time and were just as well received both critically and from a consumer standpoint - Southeastern and Metamodern Sounds in Country Music. Both great albums, but neither got the mainstream promotion or recognition as Traveller, and Isbell nor Simpson have had the accolades from the mainstream side.
As for the song Nashville, according to an interview I read, Stapleton says it's not really about the industry, but about the city and his growth in popularity. Apparently his house in town was starting to be a standard stop on the "tour of the stars' homes" bus tour, and he couldn't even go outside and play with his kids in the yard without people clamoring around for pictures. So he picked up and moved way the hell out into the country.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 3:11 pm to turnpiketiger
I dont care if you talk about the roads in the cities where I live.
I dont take it personal.
I dont take it personal.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 6:04 pm to auggie
“ Studio A, using Nashville session players.”. Not really accurate... Dave Cobb purchased the studio and he is far from being part of the garbage Nashville clique and for brought in players he mostly uses the old timers who can’t get work in Nashville any longer or young and upcoming players.
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 11/18/20 at 6:49 pm to The Don
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. Dave Cobb purchased the studio
David Cobb doesn't own Studio A. He is the resident producer, like Chet Atkins was at Studio B. and runs his label out of there. It's owned by Mike curb, and a couple of other rich guys that I never heard of.
The point is though, Stapleton got his start in Nashville, and there's no getting around that. I don't really care, but lets just be honest about it.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 7:03 pm to auggie
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It's fashionable to bash Nashville though, so a lot of people do it.
The bashing is warranted considering the amount of pure garbage that comes out of there. I mean there obviously is still some good stuff coming out of there but it gets little to no radio play compared to the kain brown crap.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 7:10 pm to auggie
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The point is though, Stapleton got his start in Nashville, and there's no getting around that. I don't really care, but lets just be honest about it.
I never denied that he didn’t get started there. That’s the whole point of the song “Nashville” like I had previously said. I was pointing out how it’s dumb that they’re fine with pushing Stapleton in mainstream but refuse to even give guys like Tyler Childers or Colter Wall the limelight.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 7:30 pm to turnpiketiger
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refuse to even give guys like Tyler Childers or Colter Wall the limelight.
It's probably more about the material, than the artists themselves. Nashville has always been choosy about little small things in songs, form, choice of words, etc.. Stapleton had the opportunity to learn the ropes, by being there and learning to write songs that way.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 7:47 pm to auggie
So songs with no meaning about jacked up trucks girls and beer is what they think is best? Basically they have to dumb it down?
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:09 pm to turnpiketiger
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So songs with no meaning about jacked up trucks girls and beer is what they think is best? Basically they have to dumb it down?
Nashville music goes in cycles, along with popularity among young people. Right now they have a lot of young people listening to country music. That's because the next big pop music fad hasn't come along yet. When that happens, country radio will go back to it's core music and audience. The people that aren't real Country Music People will leave Nashville. It's happened over and over again. It's just about making money and always has been.
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