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My attack angle when strumming guitar is damaging the guitar. How to fix?
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:52 am
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:52 am
The one and only guitar I owned up until 2 years ago was a Takamine G Series similar to this:
I bought a Seagull S6 about 2 years ago and have loved it
However, I started to notice that part of the rosette (before the pick guard) was getting damaged / rubbed off from my strumming. I never noticed this problem on my Takamine. It's gotten so bad on the Seagull that the pick guard has actually shifted about a quarter inch down and some of the glue is exposed in some parts.
Are there any videos or something I can do to help correct my attack angle?
I bought a Seagull S6 about 2 years ago and have loved it
However, I started to notice that part of the rosette (before the pick guard) was getting damaged / rubbed off from my strumming. I never noticed this problem on my Takamine. It's gotten so bad on the Seagull that the pick guard has actually shifted about a quarter inch down and some of the glue is exposed in some parts.
Are there any videos or something I can do to help correct my attack angle?
This post was edited on 5/24/23 at 12:59 pm
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Posted on 5/24/23 at 12:12 pm to SUB
Your Takamine likely has a rosette composed of ABS binding strips inlaid into the soundboard, underneath a thick durable poly composition (aka hard as nails) clearcoat.
Your Seagull has a rosette that is a decal applied to the surface of the soundboard, under a thin satin poly (aka not hard as nails) sealer.
Inlaying a rosette on an already constructed guitar is not cheap. Finishing the soundboard with a more durable clear will change the tone. As to if it's for the better or for the worse, you have to roll the dice to play the game.
Short of changing your playing technique, there's not much you can do other than slowly forging your own honest relic acoustic.
Your Seagull has a rosette that is a decal applied to the surface of the soundboard, under a thin satin poly (aka not hard as nails) sealer.
Inlaying a rosette on an already constructed guitar is not cheap. Finishing the soundboard with a more durable clear will change the tone. As to if it's for the better or for the worse, you have to roll the dice to play the game.
Short of changing your playing technique, there's not much you can do other than slowly forging your own honest relic acoustic.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 12:56 pm to TheFretShack
Thanks. I figured the damage had something to do with the finish on the Takamine vs the Seagull.
I actually was asking for help with adjusting my attack angle. Just looking for some tweaks. The question in my OP was poorly worded so I updated it.
I actually was asking for help with adjusting my attack angle. Just looking for some tweaks. The question in my OP was poorly worded so I updated it.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 1:00 pm to TheFretShack
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Short of changing your playing technique, there's not much you can do other than slowly forging your own honest relic acoustic.
You're a poet at heart, Jeff.
This post was edited on 5/24/23 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 5/24/23 at 2:23 pm to SUB
Just keep a strumming.....
Posted on 5/24/23 at 3:17 pm to SUB
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actually was asking for help with adjusting my attack angle. Just looking for some tweaks.
Like a golf swing. If you’ve played golf for years and know what you’re doing, why?
New player? Sure change things.
If not, as mentioned, you’re relic’ing your own guitar honestly.
Go to sell later, most people won’t care about honest play wear. Drops and cracks? Sure. But a legit previous owner strum pattern adds to a guitar for me.
That’s my $0.02. And it in no way answers your original question. Lol
I will take back my 2 cents. Just don’t throw them at me.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 3:51 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Well I guess it is not that big of a deal. I'm honestly worried I'm going to wear down the wood so much that I'll put a hole in it at some point.
I was also worried that maybe I'm not strumming correctly and could improve my technique. I do have trouble being able to pick the strings I want to pick sometimes. I just hit the wrong string.
Maybe I"m just overthinking all of this.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 4:28 pm to TheFretShack
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As to if it's for the better or for the worse, you have to roll the dice to play the game.
Are odds usually 50/50 on that in your repair experience?
Has there ever been a time where you were really worried about a changed tone and the customer was just blown away and excited?
This post was edited on 5/24/23 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 5/24/23 at 7:43 pm to SEClint
To me, the unbiased objective third-party observer, yes, 50/50. Keep in mind tone is so subjective and the human mind is so fickle that sometimes a refin sounds better because it's what the eyes want to see haha.
The thing that changes tone for the better more than 50/50 is properly repaired mahogany or similar species headstock breaks, particularly Gibsons. Proper adhesives luthiers and techs use are stronger and stiffer than the mahogany that surrounds the glue.
I have never experienced a properly repaired Gibson or similar materials/design headstock crack or snap that didn't sound at least as good as it did prior to the repair. Most mended heads actually are more resonant acoustically, so much you can feel increased vibration under the left hand, which in turn generates better fundamental and subsequently amplified tone.
The thing that changes tone for the better more than 50/50 is properly repaired mahogany or similar species headstock breaks, particularly Gibsons. Proper adhesives luthiers and techs use are stronger and stiffer than the mahogany that surrounds the glue.
I have never experienced a properly repaired Gibson or similar materials/design headstock crack or snap that didn't sound at least as good as it did prior to the repair. Most mended heads actually are more resonant acoustically, so much you can feel increased vibration under the left hand, which in turn generates better fundamental and subsequently amplified tone.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 8:37 pm to SUB
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However, I started to notice that part of the rosette (before the pick guard) was getting damaged / rubbed off from my strumming.
That’s character, and shows you play it well. If you are really playing your guitar, parts of it will show wear… or shall I say “character.”
This post was edited on 5/24/23 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:10 pm to SUB
If you’re comfortable, and more importantly, if it sounds good, keep doing what you’re doing. Don’t worry about that guitar. It’s not some museum piece. You’re just giving it mojo.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:18 am to SUB
Have you tried using a smaller pick?
It might help flatten your angle and help with accuracy.
One great thing about using a thumbpick and fingers, my guitars stay pretty nice.
It might help flatten your angle and help with accuracy.
One great thing about using a thumbpick and fingers, my guitars stay pretty nice.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 8:11 am
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:17 am to auggie
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Have you tried using a smaller pick?
Smaller in what way. Do you have an example?
Thanks everyone for the feedback
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:36 am to SUB
Here is a variety pack from Dunlop that has some different sizes.
LINK
Another thing you can do, is hold your pick differently, so that you are playing with the top corner, instead of the pointy end. It can give a great sound, it can give a grittier sound too, especially with the textured picks. I don't use a flatpick much, but I think doing it this way, helped me improve a bit.
LINK
Another thing you can do, is hold your pick differently, so that you are playing with the top corner, instead of the pointy end. It can give a great sound, it can give a grittier sound too, especially with the textured picks. I don't use a flatpick much, but I think doing it this way, helped me improve a bit.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 9:47 am
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:15 pm to auggie
Thanks. I ordered those pics. It's pretty nice that they have free shipping too.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:48 pm to TheFretShack
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headstock breaks, particularly Gibsons
Love/hate relationship with Gibson les paul headstock. More hate than love, the epiphone copy's headstock is better angled and sturdier imo.
I think that's my biggest LP complaint, aside from weight.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:39 am to SEClint
If you just look at a Gibson headstock wrong, it will crack. Fender, hell you can fight your way out of a bar brawl and then drop it down a stairwell and not only will it probably be ok, it may even be in tune.
This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 10:40 am
Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:22 pm to SUB
How's the string height?
Could there be some unevenness or even some angle up/down when looking across the strings or fret board?
Neck true?
Could there be some unevenness or even some angle up/down when looking across the strings or fret board?
Neck true?
Posted on 5/27/23 at 7:08 am to SUB
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Thanks. I ordered those pics. It's pretty nice that they have free shipping too.
I really like them. I've bought a couple of guitars with them, and odds and ends, not disappointed yet.
Posted on 5/27/23 at 7:27 am to awestruck
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How's the string height?
Don’t know. I had it set up 2 years ago at a local shop.
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