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Musicians who record at home..Meet your new bass player..

Posted on 4/24/20 at 2:10 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 2:10 pm
If you play Metal, Rock, Country, Blues, etc..and you need bass, but are limited in skill, instrument resources and recording knowledge, my friends at toontrack are changing the game. This is a heads up for the home musician.



Far more than a virtual instrument, EZbass offers amazing sound quality and fundamental features that let you add realistic bass tracks to your songs with minimal effort. You can choose between Vintage and Modern tones, and can let EZbass build a bass line, convert an existing bass line to MIDI, or input your bass line with a MIDI controller. Palm muting, slapping, slides etc..Its coming May 19.

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Posted by fontell
Montgomery
Member since Sep 2006
4612 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 3:26 pm to
Davie 504 will not like this one bit
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 3:37 pm to
They also have a great drum line. It makes the frustrations of dealing with drummers and bass players a thing of the past.

If you're a jack of all trades with an emphasis on guitar, the direction home music production is going is getting interesting. 5 years from now itll be 3x better and so on...

That's just the initial program, I'm looking forward to the add-ons and possible amp sims.
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 3:41 pm
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50934 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:29 pm to
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It makes the frustrations of dealing with drummers and bass players a thing of the past.




As a bass player, I don't think I've ever been so triggered.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:30 pm to
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As a bass player


Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
20272 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 8:22 am to
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EZbass offers amazing sound quality and fundamental features that let you add realistic bass tracks to your songs with minimal effort.
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It makes the frustrations of dealing with drummers and bass players a thing of the past.
Dude.

If we bass players were unreliable, egotistical, self-absorbed assholes who were frustrating to deal with, we’d have been guitarists.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
19431 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 8:44 am to
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This is a heads up for the home musician.



This is all you need to know. I get out and play in front of real humans (before rona). Have fun with your sterile, robot music.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31547 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 9:28 am to
or you can pay someone to record a bass track for you at airgigs?
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31940 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 11:39 am to
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This is all you need to know. I get out and play in front of real humans (before rona). Have fun with your sterile, robot music.


Those type programs would only be used for song demos, not a final product project.
On song demos, you are trying to get them done as quick and efficiently as you can. The more people involved, the more complicated it gets, and the more it tends to go off the rails.. sound and budget speaking.
Solves scheduling issues too, and that's always a headache.
This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 12:47 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 12:06 pm to
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FearlessFreep
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 12:08 pm to
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I get out and play in front of real humans (before rona).


As did i, to many many more than you.

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Have fun with your sterile, robot music. 


Blackened Death Metal.

So you dont understand the concept of home recording. You know..some said the same thing to Bob Dylan when he went electric..like it lost its soul or something. It's about ease of use to musicians in the creating process.

I'm glad home recording is getting advancement. You ever spent a fortune in a studio? Or hired any guns? Have you personally lost lots of money and time cause of another band member? If I'd have had things like this as a teen, I could have advanced quicker. I also would have had more patience. Which is all I'm trying to give to the music board, with information on advancement in audio production.
This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 1:11 pm
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
20272 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 12:17 pm to
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SEClint
Ha, I’m just funnin.

As auggie says above, this would probably be a very useful tool for demo purposes - much better than struggling to play an instrument you havent mastered just to get a track down.

That said, I doubt they will ever be able to replicate the human improvisational ability, particularly the way that a group of musicians are able to play off one another’s strengths to make the whole greater than the sum of its parts.

And if you consider that vital part of the collaborative process “frustrating”, then maybe you’re not doing it right.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 12:27 pm to
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And if you consider that vital part of the collaborative process “frustrating”, then maybe you’re not doing it right


I've been doing it since the mid 1990s. I've dealt with many people over the years, it was fun back in the day.

Nowadays, when you know what you want..and you are a jack of all trades on bass, drums, piano etc..you pick up things after being around them for years. I do anyways, learning what I can and at times and when on a plane or any travel, stuck in public..the editing and writing, getting ideas, building and creating..its useful.

I know human bass players are a necessity, cliff burton and Alex Webster made their bands what they are imo. So yeah, if I can write a bassline and my live bass player can improvise but improve on I will more than welcome it.

This is all for home writing purposes, not live or a final product.
This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 12:29 pm
Posted by 50407Tiger
Member since Oct 2019
1227 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 12:33 pm to
I’d say bass players in general are pretty passive aggressive.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 12:35 pm to
I prefer them aggressive, that plus remembering to change your strings makes for great tone.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50934 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 8:23 pm to
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I prefer them aggressive, that plus remembering to change your strings makes for great tone.


We can't afford to just change our strings all the time man. People are replacing us in session gigs with software.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31547 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 10:24 pm to
I’ve had the same strings for 2 years. It makes for great tone
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19015 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 11:24 pm to
Things have sure come a long way from Drumflow 99 on a floppy disk.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 7:06 am to
I have a new pack of string thsts been sitting on my amp for 2 years


Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40038 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 9:29 am to
I've used these programs for drums and guitar, but the bass programs have never impressed me. Partly it is because I can't ever hit the groove with them the same way. With a real bass, I can let a note ring a little longer while playing under or over it, but I've never been able to get one of these programs to play a groove the way I would play it.

The drum program I use, BFD3, allows you to add some human error to the drums, which is a weird feature, but also can aid in texture and feel, without anything noticeable for the listening.

Also I've found it is so much simply to plug into my interface, play a bass line, and then add effects or whatever to make it sound like I want. Programming stuff is the opposite of what I want to do when I'm making music.
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