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re: Most overrated Band in history? The correct answer is Nirvana.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:06 am to DaleGribble
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:06 am to DaleGribble
Nirvana is a glorified garage band.
They must have relatives in upper management at Rolling Stone considering the amount of Nirvana propaganda that they spew.
They must have relatives in upper management at Rolling Stone considering the amount of Nirvana propaganda that they spew.
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Posted on 10/18/21 at 1:06 pm to oracle of joemaha
The true mark of a transcendent band or artist is that their work is so profound, moving, and influential, that they become resented and people begin to question their legitimacy as an all-time great.
Nirvana falls into that category.
Nirvana falls into that category.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 1:20 pm to oracle of joemaha
Cap'n Geech and the Shrimp shack Shooters
Posted on 10/18/21 at 1:26 pm to JackieTreehorn
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Cap'n Geech and the Shrimp shack Shooters
Their early stuff was great. Then the sold out and it was all about the money.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 1:39 pm to DaleGribble
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My vote would go to Bruce Springsteen and his E Street Band. Not sure who their sounds is supposed to appeal to but it's not me
Early Springsteen is awesome songwriting. It’s straight poetry.
Thunder Road
Posted on 10/18/21 at 1:53 pm to logjamming
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The true mark of a transcendent band or artist is that their work is so profound, moving, and influential, that they become resented and people begin to question their legitimacy as an all-time great.
Nirvana falls into that category.
Yeah, "Teen Spirit" was epic.
So profound, moving, and influential.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 1:59 pm to oracle of joemaha
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Yeah, "Teen Spirit" was epic. So profound, moving, and influential.
Profound and moving are fairly subjective and will vary from person to person, but are you arguing that Teen Spirit wasn’t influential? Because that is a pretty bold stance to take.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 10/18/21 at 2:07 pm to randybobandy
U2 is easily #2.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 2:12 pm to The Seaward
Teen Spirit was garbage.
As was most of their "work".
The reason so many people think they are the most overrated band in history is because they were.
When the masses say that a restaurant is horrible it's usually because it is. Not because they don't possess a sophisticated palate.
When the masses say a certain vehicle/engine is junk it's usually because it is. Not because the masses aren't sophisticated enough to appreciate blown engines and transmissions.
As was most of their "work".
The reason so many people think they are the most overrated band in history is because they were.
When the masses say that a restaurant is horrible it's usually because it is. Not because they don't possess a sophisticated palate.
When the masses say a certain vehicle/engine is junk it's usually because it is. Not because the masses aren't sophisticated enough to appreciate blown engines and transmissions.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 2:17 pm to oracle of joemaha
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Yeah, "Teen Spirit" was epic.
So profound, moving, and influential.
That song propelled them into the stratosphere knocking off madonna, prince, and Michael Jackson out of the #1 pop charts.
Nevermind was an epic album. Whether you want to accept it or not.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 2:20 pm to oracle of joemaha
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The reason so many people think they are the most overrated band in history is because they were. When the masses say that a restaurant is horrible it's usually because it is. Not because they don't possess a sophisticated palate.
For Nirvana to be the “most overrated band” ever, wouldn’t that mean the masses say that they are great? And by your argument if the masses say they are great it’s usually because they are.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 2:33 pm to The Seaward
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For Nirvana to be the “most overrated band” ever, wouldn’t that mean the masses say that they are great? And by your argument if the masses say they are great it’s usually because they are.
Overrated by the likes of Rolling Stone magazine and other alleged music publications who constantly list them in their top 10 all time.
Justin Bieber has sold millions to teeny boppers, if Rolling Stone listed him as a top 10 artist I would be saying the same no matter what his sales.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 2:34 pm to oracle of joemaha
I don't have a horse in this race; I can take or leave most of Nirvana'a music though I don't deny how important and influential they were in their day.
I do believe a number of other grunge bands of the time were better than Nirvana (Alice in Chains, Soundgarden...), but Nirvana were most easily marketed by David Geffen, etc. Kurt Cobain was a good-looking chap and the band had a logo that looked great on t-shirts (it still does, and at JC Penney, no less).
I hear a lot of young listeners just discovering Cobain's lyrics today citing them as some profound poetry. I assure them that I was there and the words mostly mean nothing.
I do believe a number of other grunge bands of the time were better than Nirvana (Alice in Chains, Soundgarden...), but Nirvana were most easily marketed by David Geffen, etc. Kurt Cobain was a good-looking chap and the band had a logo that looked great on t-shirts (it still does, and at JC Penney, no less).
I hear a lot of young listeners just discovering Cobain's lyrics today citing them as some profound poetry. I assure them that I was there and the words mostly mean nothing.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 2:37 pm to oracle of joemaha
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Yeah, "Teen Spirit" was epic.
So profound, moving, and influential.
What it was was profoundly different. When people heard “Smells Like Teen Spirit” it was completely unlike anything else they had heard on the radio before. It’s easy to throw stones at it now after 3 decades of copycats have driven the genre into the ground, but when it debuted, it was even more of a sea level change for popular music in the U.S. than when the Beatles debuted on the Ed Sullivan show. Today, it’s old hat, much like Journey is old hat, not because it wasn’t good, but because it has been copied and copied and copied ad nauseum.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 2:41 pm to kingbob
I can't help but chuckle when "Smells Like Teen Spirit" plays on local radio stations today, sometimes sandwiched between "Baby One More Time" and "Don't Stop Believing."
Posted on 10/18/21 at 2:41 pm to kingbob
Eddie Van Halen launched a generation of copycats like no other.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 2:44 pm to kingbob
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Early Springsteen is awesome songwriting. It’s straight poetry.
It's their sound that I can't stand. I was a teenager when his biggest album came out. I always assumed that maybe you had to be from New Jersey/New York to "get" the appeal, but obviously that's not the case.
It's just not my kind of music.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 2:47 pm to oracle of joemaha
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Eddie Van Halen launched a generation of copycats like no other.
Agreed. The difference was Eddie absolutely smoked every copycat, and his band continuously evolved to maintain relevance far longer than most. Heck, they almost stayed relevant as an original act into the mid 90’s before relegating themselves to reaching their “greatest hits” era.
Eddie also was hugely influential in the design of guitars. His frankenstrat design was molded into the superstrats that still dominate metal music (from hair to modern to hardcore) today. The superstrat style body shape and pickup configuration is just as (if not more so) popular as the classic strat, LP, tele, and SG style guitars.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 10/18/21 at 2:53 pm to kingbob
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Agreed. The difference was Eddie absolutely smoked every copycat,
Exactly.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 2:53 pm to DaleGribble
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It's their sound that I can't stand.
I can respect that. It’s not my favorite sound either. It is kinda similar to swamp pop, which is why I can connect with it enough in a nostalgic way in order to listen to the lyrics. For Bruce, the appeal is the lyrics. There’s so much vivid imagery that takes the listener on a journey (It’s really the opposite of Nirvana in that respect). In fact, the attempt to capture that ability to tell a vibrant exciting story was a big inspiration in my song writing. I tried to take that approach to lyrics while wrapping them with a “better” sound around them.
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