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Posted on 10/21/26 at 1:21 pm to Cdawg
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Technically it would be AI plagiarist right?
Nope, you would be the plagiarist because you would have stolen my lyrics without my permission.
It would also be a copyright violation.
Posted on 10/21/26 at 1:25 pm to Dawglovertoo
This is a question but is the music not copyrighted until you put your lyrics to it? So could I use the music and change the lyrics?
Posted on 10/21/26 at 1:32 pm to Cdawg
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This is a question but is the music not copyrighted until you put your lyrics to it? So could I use the music and change the lyrics?
I think you should and let him sue to stop you.
Of course, since no one is going to care enough to buy any of it would the compensation be a percentage of a penny?
Posted on 10/21/26 at 1:32 pm to STigers
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Then they go from there changing it a bit making it there own
Like using it to write a conclusion to an essay, kick start a story idea, or come up with a bridge. Then, its a collaborator and should be attributed.
Posted on 10/21/26 at 1:34 pm to Mizz-SEC
I'm willing to pay up to $5 for those lyrics.
Posted on 10/21/26 at 1:38 pm to Cdawg
quote:that’s it. Is that all their worth?
I'm willing to pay up to $5 for those lyrics.
Posted on 10/21/26 at 1:54 pm to Cdawg
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This is a question but is the music not copyrighted until you put your lyrics to it? So could I use the music and change the lyrics?
The music isn't created until after I write the lyrics. Also, I own the copyrights to the lyrics and the music.
Posted on 10/21/26 at 1:57 pm to Dawglovertoo
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I think the opinion of someone who refuses to even listen to a song regardless of how the song was produced is invalid regarding the artistic merit of the song.
I have no problem with people disagreeing with me as long as they have a valid reason for their disagreement.
Thls is a very long and roundabout way of saying, "If you disagree with me then I don't think your opinion is valid." Which if that's your position then fine, but be honest about it. I have stated multiple times in this thread why I consider AI-created music not to be art and I have never used "the way it sounds" as a basis for that stance, so it really makes no difference whether I listen to it or not. And to be quite clear, if I did listen to it and happened to enjoy it, I would give credit for the musical portion to the AI and not to you. I am not saying that to be rude to you or as a "gotcha" or anything like that - I simply consider the AI to be the song's writer because it actually came up with the music. You get credit for the lyrics, of course, but the machine gets credit for everything else.
Posted on 10/21/26 at 2:01 pm to STigers
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that’s it. Is that all their worth?
Shhh woman, I'm negotiating.
Posted on 10/21/26 at 2:03 pm to Mizz-SEC
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This is a question but is the music not copyrighted until you put your lyrics to it? So could I use the music and change the lyrics?
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I think you should and let him sue to stop you.
Now you are conspiring to steal my copyrighted music.
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Of course, since no one is going to care enough to buy any of it would the compensation be a percentage of a penny?
I don't intend to make any money from my songs but that doesn't mean someone who uses my copyrighted music without my permission can't be sued for monetary damages for a copyright violation.
Posted on 10/21/26 at 2:06 pm to STigers
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that’s it. Is that all their worth?
It's "they're" not "their".
Posted on 10/21/26 at 2:12 pm to Dawglovertoo
quote:omg shut up. Your crazy and this is a message board. I hate posters who correct grammar.
It's "they're" not "their".
This post was edited on 10/21/26 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 10/21/26 at 2:15 pm to STigers
Btw you’re wrong
The phrase "their worth" refers to the value, importance, or monetary amount belonging to or associated with a group of people or things.
And if you knew what I was talking about you would understand but you do not
The phrase "their worth" refers to the value, importance, or monetary amount belonging to or associated with a group of people or things.
And if you knew what I was talking about you would understand but you do not
This post was edited on 10/21/26 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 10/21/26 at 2:27 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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I think the opinion of someone who refuses to even listen to a song regardless of how the song was produced is invalid regarding the artistic merit of the song.
I have no problem with people disagreeing with me as long as they have a valid reason for their disagreement.
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Thls is a very long and roundabout way of saying, "If you disagree with me then I don't think your opinion is valid." Which if that's your position then fine, but be honest about it.
That's not my position. As I stated already, if someone has a valid reason for their opinion that disagrees with me then I will accept it.
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I have stated multiple times in this thread why I consider AI-created music not to be art and I have never used "the way it sounds" as a basis for that stance, so it really makes no difference whether I listen to it or not. And to be quite clear, if I did listen to it and happened to enjoy it, I would give credit for the musical portion to the AI and not to you. I am not saying that to be rude to you or as a "gotcha" or anything like that - I simply consider the AI to be the song's writer because it actually came up with the music. You get credit for the lyrics, of course, but the machine gets credit for everything else.
You're wrong.
The music wasn't created by AI until I instructed AI how I wanted the music to sound. That included things like what kind of vocalist, chorus, tempo, instruments, and kind of music like rock and roll, blues, etc.
Regardless, unless you actually listen to my songs you can't claim they aren't art since my songs are my creative expression using my personal vision and emotional depth to translate my inner feelings into a shared experience.
Posted on 10/21/26 at 2:31 pm to STigers
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I hate posters who correct grammar.
I dislike posters who don't use correct grammar then act like they have superior intelligence and tell people what is or isn't art.
This post was edited on 10/21/26 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 10/21/26 at 2:33 pm to Dawglovertoo
quote:Same
dislike posters who don't use correct grammar then act like they're superior and tell people what is or isn't art.
Posted on 10/21/26 at 2:41 pm to STigers
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The phrase "their worth" refers to the value, importance, or monetary amount belonging to or associated with a group of people or things.
And if you knew what I was talking about you would understand but you do not
Even if I don't make a penny off of my songs and you steal my lyrics and/or music which I created then it is still a copyright violation and you can be sued for monetary damages especially if you make any money by stealing my lyrics and/or music.
Posted on 10/21/26 at 2:46 pm to Dawglovertoo
Posted on 10/21/26 at 3:06 pm to Dawglovertoo
If I can't draw but you can, and I tell you that I'd like you to draw me a picture of a man wearing a blue jacket and red pants who has a Van Dyke beard and is sad because he just dropped his ice cream cone on the ground, and you do it, whose art is the finished drawing?
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