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re: Is it fair to compare Led Zeppelin to the Beatles?
Posted on 5/28/23 at 11:16 pm to titmouse
Posted on 5/28/23 at 11:16 pm to titmouse
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All Beatles songs sound the same?
That's a new one
Precisely. That statement holds no water when you consider in less than five years, they went from "Love me Do" and "She Loves You" to "In my Life, "Eleanor Rigby", "Strawberry Fields" and "Something".
None of the three songwriters' songs sound like each other's. That's just a bad take.
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Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:06 am to ATCTx
So is it fair to say Beatles were better songwriters and Led Zeppelin were better musicians?
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:26 am to prplhze2000
Beatles changed the music scene but Zeppelin had by far greater and more meaningful songs.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 8:31 am to prplhze2000
Not fair to the Beatles who were inferior. Zep pulled so much better trim than Yoko and Linda.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 9:24 am to samson73103
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Led Zeppelin was much better than the Beatles.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 9:24 am to nealnan8
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But, a truly objective ranking would have the Beatles so far ahead of everyone else, it would not be close, based on the prodigious output of fantastic songs and the amount of great musicians that cover their songs to this day.
/Thread.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 9:26 am to prplhze2000
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So is it fair to say Beatles were better songwriters and Led Zeppelin were better musicians?
Paul and George don't get their due as musicians. Especially Paul.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:56 am to prplhze2000
No, the Beatles had more talented bowel movements than what every member of Zeppelin possessed in musical talent. Especially song writing.
Zeppelin is actually several notches back to the Beatles, Stones, The Who and The Kinks.
Ftr, John Paul Jones was the most talented of that group.
Zeppelin is actually several notches back to the Beatles, Stones, The Who and The Kinks.
Ftr, John Paul Jones was the most talented of that group.
This post was edited on 5/30/23 at 9:32 am
Posted on 5/29/23 at 11:38 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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So is it fair to say Beatles were better songwriters and Led Zeppelin were better musicians?
Paul and George don't get their due as musicians. Especially Paul.
...and Ringo but Paige and Bonham are impossible to beat as a 1/2 combo. Really the entire LZ lineupe was virtuosity upon virtuosity. Amazing singer, bassist, drummer, electric guitar lineup. Beatles wrote better songs: no one better and McCartney/Lennon in that regard and then you throw in the Harrison stuff?
Posted on 5/29/23 at 11:57 am to rebelrouser
Amazing how many kids today know Led Zeppelin but don't know Beatles.
And know their songs well.
And know their songs well.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 2:49 pm to DeltaTigerDelta
quote:I've posted on here that Yoko is the most amazing story in music history
Not fair to the Beatles who were inferior. Zep pulled so much better trim than Yoko and Linda.
But when I think about it, Linda's rise may be even more unbelievable
Yoko at least exploited John's pretensions and his pathological need to be seen ad a great artist
But Linda was simply a rich spoiled J*P whose father got her a job as a magazine photographer, where she was an upper crust groupie fricking the rock stars who passed through NYC
Add to that she was a total kvnt who treated her servants like shite. And she wasn't hot either.
I've never understood Paul marrying her. He could get much better on the quad.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 7:18 am to prplhze2000
no.
Apples to Oranges.
Apples to Oranges.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 7:54 am to prplhze2000
Queen over all of those mentioned.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:07 am to prplhze2000
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o is it fair to say Beatles were better songwriters and Led Zeppelin were better musicians?
I don't really even like the Beatles that much, but a huge part of being a musician is writing songs
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:29 am to prplhze2000
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So is it fair to say Beatles were better songwriters and Led Zeppelin were better musicians?
better is subjective. but I would say the beatles had far more interesting songwriting overall than LZ.
i'd argue bonham was the "better" drummer but ringo played some of the most memorable riffs in music history.
was jimmy page a better guitar player than george harrison, john or even paul? In jimmy's prime I'd say he was a top guitarist in rock and roll BUT he also lifted/borrowed a lot of the riffs he used. I think harrison doesn't get even credit for how good of an original guitarist he was with his writing of riffs.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:35 am to TrussvilleTide
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but a huge part of being a musician is writing songs
I would agree and disagree with this. you can be a complete bad arse at your instrument and not be songwriter at all.
you can also be a brilliant songwriter and not be a great player. Bernie Taupin comes to mind. Not an amazing musician but wrote most of the lyrics for Elton John.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 9:03 am to monsterballads
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I would agree and disagree with this. you can be a complete bad arse at your instrument and not be songwriter at all.
you can also be a brilliant songwriter and not be a great player. Bernie Taupin comes to mind. Not an amazing musician but wrote most of the lyrics for Elton John.
100% agree, which is why you have guys like Dylan who are great song writers but maybe not the best singers, Chris Stapleton is an incredible singer but his songs generally suck in my opinion, and then the legends usually have it all.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 9:47 am to prplhze2000
Frankly Zeppelin is probably more comparable to The Who.
The Beatles are a separate category in terms of influence, popularity and being "a thing". The only real comparisons possible are with Elvis and Michael Jackson and neither of those cats were bands.
Folks try to compare The Beatles to the Stones, but that falls flat, too. Although "more comparable" to The Beatles than Zeppelin is, still an Apples to Oranges situation all the same.
The Beatles are a separate category in terms of influence, popularity and being "a thing". The only real comparisons possible are with Elvis and Michael Jackson and neither of those cats were bands.
Folks try to compare The Beatles to the Stones, but that falls flat, too. Although "more comparable" to The Beatles than Zeppelin is, still an Apples to Oranges situation all the same.
This post was edited on 5/30/23 at 9:48 am
Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:08 am to prplhze2000
I don’t know how anyone can say the Beatles aren’t number 1. Their impact is unmatched.
Zeppelin has to be number two in my book. They never released a bad album
The Stones and Floyd come next in any order. The Stones case for #2 is weak because their later stuff is meh. PF’s case for #2 is weak because some pre-Gilmour stuff is unlistenable
A case could be made for U2 to be in the top 4 (or the Eagles, or maybe The Beach Boys)
Aerosmith has to be top ten for longevity
The Who fits somewhere in there.
As far as solo artists, Elton instead of Elvis because he wrote his own songs. Michael Jackson isn’t up there because he’s a pedo.
Zeppelin has to be number two in my book. They never released a bad album
The Stones and Floyd come next in any order. The Stones case for #2 is weak because their later stuff is meh. PF’s case for #2 is weak because some pre-Gilmour stuff is unlistenable
A case could be made for U2 to be in the top 4 (or the Eagles, or maybe The Beach Boys)
Aerosmith has to be top ten for longevity
The Who fits somewhere in there.
As far as solo artists, Elton instead of Elvis because he wrote his own songs. Michael Jackson isn’t up there because he’s a pedo.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:33 am to Ace Midnight
I agree with you.
1) Beatles
Distant 2) The Stones
My 3 would be The Who
It doesn't matter after that
1) Beatles
Distant 2) The Stones
My 3 would be The Who
It doesn't matter after that
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