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Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:23 pm to VABuckeye
Don't forget to add in your amp.
BTW: What style music are you wanting to play? Me I've never made the jump past an electrified acoustic; however it's what fill's my need. So just curious what type music are you interested in?
BTW: What style music are you wanting to play? Me I've never made the jump past an electrified acoustic; however it's what fill's my need. So just curious what type music are you interested in?
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:04 pm to awestruck
One reason that guitar appealed to me was the ability to play different styles and types of music on it. I’m all over the place with what I like to listen to but you’ve brought up a good point. I’ll need to add that to my thought process and give more consideration to what I want to play.
Of course, now people have opened my eyes to a lot of options (and fret shack seems to view my budget as unlimited) so I’m a bit overwhelmed with information right now. It’s a good thing that I’m going to take my time with this process.
One of the main reasons I want to do this is that I have some issues with my hands and I view guitar playing as a very good way to exercise my hands. The only finger that’s really a big issue is my pinky finger on my right hand and as I’m right handed I don’t think that’s much of an issue. Someone will correct me if I’m wrong in that thought.
Another reason is that I need something calming and relaxing. My business is expanding at a rapid rate and I need something to focus on, relax with and disconnect. If not, my mind just works all the time. It’s just how I’m wired. If you read the travel board you’re probably thinking not the way you travel but I work when I travel. The phone always has service and the room always has internet. I see this as something where I could plug headphones into the jack and get lost in it for while each day.
Thank you all again for your input. It is greatly appreciated.
Of course, now people have opened my eyes to a lot of options (and fret shack seems to view my budget as unlimited) so I’m a bit overwhelmed with information right now. It’s a good thing that I’m going to take my time with this process.
One of the main reasons I want to do this is that I have some issues with my hands and I view guitar playing as a very good way to exercise my hands. The only finger that’s really a big issue is my pinky finger on my right hand and as I’m right handed I don’t think that’s much of an issue. Someone will correct me if I’m wrong in that thought.
Another reason is that I need something calming and relaxing. My business is expanding at a rapid rate and I need something to focus on, relax with and disconnect. If not, my mind just works all the time. It’s just how I’m wired. If you read the travel board you’re probably thinking not the way you travel but I work when I travel. The phone always has service and the room always has internet. I see this as something where I could plug headphones into the jack and get lost in it for while each day.
Thank you all again for your input. It is greatly appreciated.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:19 pm to VABuckeye
You said, "I know, it's expensive but I have expensive tastes," which kind of implies your budget is big and spending big money is where you are leaning, doesn't it? I just responded based on what you said.
If you want bang-for-the-buck or value recommendations, I can offer that as well ... I've actually done that many times on this message board. Search any thread about buying guitars posted on the board in the last couple years and you'll likely find my suggestions there.
If you want bang-for-the-buck or value recommendations, I can offer that as well ... I've actually done that many times on this message board. Search any thread about buying guitars posted on the board in the last couple years and you'll likely find my suggestions there.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:22 pm to TheFretShack
No offense intended.
I want a good bang for the buck learner. I’ve been reading that it’s easier to learn on steel stringed acoustics? Is that accurate?
If I were to set a budget of say $1k or less (and less is fine) what suggestions would you have? Thanks!
I want a good bang for the buck learner. I’ve been reading that it’s easier to learn on steel stringed acoustics? Is that accurate?
If I were to set a budget of say $1k or less (and less is fine) what suggestions would you have? Thanks!
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:42 pm to VABuckeye
Don't get a nylon/classical. You will spend half your time trying to tune it and the other half of the time wondering why you still don't sound in tune.
I say it here all the time, if you buy used you will get twice the guitar for the money, or the same guitar for half the price. Read that again and think hard about it.
That being said, a grand and the used market can get you a clean American-made Stratocaster or American-made Telecaster; a clean Gibson SG, or a Les Paul Studio with a non-veneer maple top in a high quality, gloss (not satin) clearcoat; a clean Seagull S6 with a spruce top upgrade, a cutaway upgrade and upper-tier onboard electronics. There are Martins and Taylors in the under-1-K-used market, they won't be as ornate, inlaid, bound and stuff like that, but they will be solidly crafted player instruments.
If you buy anything I just listed used, they will retain their value for the most part because the original buyer already ate the depreciation when he or she sold it.
Get started with that and keep us posted :)
I say it here all the time, if you buy used you will get twice the guitar for the money, or the same guitar for half the price. Read that again and think hard about it.
That being said, a grand and the used market can get you a clean American-made Stratocaster or American-made Telecaster; a clean Gibson SG, or a Les Paul Studio with a non-veneer maple top in a high quality, gloss (not satin) clearcoat; a clean Seagull S6 with a spruce top upgrade, a cutaway upgrade and upper-tier onboard electronics. There are Martins and Taylors in the under-1-K-used market, they won't be as ornate, inlaid, bound and stuff like that, but they will be solidly crafted player instruments.
If you buy anything I just listed used, they will retain their value for the most part because the original buyer already ate the depreciation when he or she sold it.
Get started with that and keep us posted :)
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:06 pm to VABuckeye
Go ahead and buy it. And then let us know what pawn shop it eventually ends up at.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:14 pm to RockAndRollDetective
1). I’m not the kind of guy who would think of entering a pawn shop.
2). I am the kind of guy who, when I resolve to do something, follows through with my plan.
2). I am the kind of guy who, when I resolve to do something, follows through with my plan.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 10:36 pm to VABuckeye
Become a roadie for the upcoming Poison and Motley Crue tours
There’s a lot more to playing the guitar than playing the guitar
There’s a lot more to playing the guitar than playing the guitar
Posted on 4/5/19 at 8:08 am to VABuckeye
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2). I am the kind of guy who, when I resolve to do something, follows through with my plan.
So, you have a plan to buy a guitar (or guitars?). Congrats. Do you have a plan on learning how to play it?
Because one of those things requires a credit card. The other thing requires dozens (probably hundreds) of hours of time commitment.
Posted on 4/5/19 at 8:18 am to Ace Midnight
I get that. I played piano for a long time so I understand the time it takes to learn.
Posted on 4/5/19 at 12:28 pm to VABuckeye
I rarely ever find good deals in pawn shops, better luck on Craigslist or Marketplace. Not dicscounting what everyone else has said, just my experience.
If you're going the acoustic route and want the best bang for your buck, I'd suggest either a Yamaha or Seagull. I myself have a Yamaha FG830 but the FG800 are amazing at $200. Mostly any guitar I've played from Yamaha is great.
I've saw ads from Orangewood Guitars which is a new company which ships to you, great prices and from most reviews, they seem to be great guitars.
If you're going the acoustic route and want the best bang for your buck, I'd suggest either a Yamaha or Seagull. I myself have a Yamaha FG830 but the FG800 are amazing at $200. Mostly any guitar I've played from Yamaha is great.
I've saw ads from Orangewood Guitars which is a new company which ships to you, great prices and from most reviews, they seem to be great guitars.
Posted on 4/5/19 at 3:11 pm to TheFretShack
This is all exceptional advice. If you're not in a rush, you can find great value in the used market.
If it were me, I'd focus on a couple of things...
1) Playability... you're not going to do what you don't enjoy... if it's *super* difficult to fret a guitar, you're going to have a much less "relaxing" experience... I don't know if you've ever played, or if this is totally foreign to you, but watch a couple of youtube videos on some really basic chords... Maybe G, C, D... Am... Then go to a guitar shop with a wide selection. Try out some of the recommendations and just get a feel for how hard you find it to hold that guitar and make a basic chord. Taylor's have long been lauded for their playability... they might not be the absolute "best sounding" guitars, but they are easy to play. Seagull is another more value entry that I've always found to be a nice player when well setup.
If you spend the money on it, most guitars can be setup to play well... but how much time and effort goes into that can be wildly different, therefore so does the price.
Personally, the used Martin/Taylor under 1K would probably be where I'd lean in your shoes if I wanted an acoustic. On the electric side, I'd think long and hard about the style of music you want to play and the sound you're looking for... as well as what sort of aesthetics matter to you... If you like the look and feel of Fender, a classic Tele (or Strat) might be a great choice... or any of the myriad clones out there.
2) And I just touched on it... what do you want to play/sound like...
Once you have selected for a model that plays well that you feel you can hold/fret reasonably well... at this point it's so heavily personal decision. Most people have price as a pretty limiting factor when starting. If you're in the ~$1k price range or higher, the world is largely your oyster. But I would want to pick the right tool for the right job as with anything. Not going to go win a motorcycle race in a Vespa, right?
Honestly if you shopped used, you could find a really good used Martin/Taylor/etc for around 600-800... couple that with a great buy used electric around 400-600, and you've got 2 great axes at 1000-1500... spend another few hundred on a quality amp and you're still under the 2K price of the original guitar you mentioned.
If it were me, I'd focus on a couple of things...
1) Playability... you're not going to do what you don't enjoy... if it's *super* difficult to fret a guitar, you're going to have a much less "relaxing" experience... I don't know if you've ever played, or if this is totally foreign to you, but watch a couple of youtube videos on some really basic chords... Maybe G, C, D... Am... Then go to a guitar shop with a wide selection. Try out some of the recommendations and just get a feel for how hard you find it to hold that guitar and make a basic chord. Taylor's have long been lauded for their playability... they might not be the absolute "best sounding" guitars, but they are easy to play. Seagull is another more value entry that I've always found to be a nice player when well setup.
If you spend the money on it, most guitars can be setup to play well... but how much time and effort goes into that can be wildly different, therefore so does the price.
Personally, the used Martin/Taylor under 1K would probably be where I'd lean in your shoes if I wanted an acoustic. On the electric side, I'd think long and hard about the style of music you want to play and the sound you're looking for... as well as what sort of aesthetics matter to you... If you like the look and feel of Fender, a classic Tele (or Strat) might be a great choice... or any of the myriad clones out there.
2) And I just touched on it... what do you want to play/sound like...
Once you have selected for a model that plays well that you feel you can hold/fret reasonably well... at this point it's so heavily personal decision. Most people have price as a pretty limiting factor when starting. If you're in the ~$1k price range or higher, the world is largely your oyster. But I would want to pick the right tool for the right job as with anything. Not going to go win a motorcycle race in a Vespa, right?
Honestly if you shopped used, you could find a really good used Martin/Taylor/etc for around 600-800... couple that with a great buy used electric around 400-600, and you've got 2 great axes at 1000-1500... spend another few hundred on a quality amp and you're still under the 2K price of the original guitar you mentioned.
Posted on 4/5/19 at 3:22 pm to fibonaccisquared
I don't know enough about the guitar yet to tell you whether it's worth spending time on or not, but my other post on the Fender Paramount, that deal is still live. Search for it on Slickdeals... it's like 380 with a $120 rebate for a guitar that has retailed for about $800. Solid woods, bone nut/saddle, and hardshell case... even if it's a mediocre player after setup, you'd be hard pressed to lose money on it if you sold it used... But certainly would not expect it to play/sound as well as a used Martin/Taylor that still sells in the $800 range.
Probably wouldn't be my first recommendation, but if you wanted to buy a cheapy that you can damn near throw away if you wanted, it might be worthwhile to start there so you can actually take your time to find the right used instrument(s) for the long haul... then sell it off.
Probably wouldn't be my first recommendation, but if you wanted to buy a cheapy that you can damn near throw away if you wanted, it might be worthwhile to start there so you can actually take your time to find the right used instrument(s) for the long haul... then sell it off.
Posted on 4/5/19 at 7:08 pm to VABuckeye
There is nothing wrong with that guitar that you want. I have played 1 that belongs to a friend. They are awesome. If you can afford it, and really intend to play, then get it.
It's a super comfortable guitar, and sounds surprisingly good unplugged, meaning, "you will have it in your hands more often". It plays more like an electric, so it will be easy on your fingers. It also sounds fantastic plugged in. It may be the only guitar you ever need, although, you will want many others.
Curious though... have you played around on friend's guitars at all?
It's a super comfortable guitar, and sounds surprisingly good unplugged, meaning, "you will have it in your hands more often". It plays more like an electric, so it will be easy on your fingers. It also sounds fantastic plugged in. It may be the only guitar you ever need, although, you will want many others.
Curious though... have you played around on friend's guitars at all?
This post was edited on 4/5/19 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 4/6/19 at 7:33 am to auggie
I have not. I have a friend that’s a drummer and guitarist he’s offered to let me borrow one which is probably where I should begin.
Thank you all for the advice and wisdom. I greatly appreciate it.
Thank you all for the advice and wisdom. I greatly appreciate it.
Posted on 4/6/19 at 12:56 pm to VABuckeye
I would not recommend spending $2k on your first guitar for several reasons. The main one being that there's no way for you to know what you want until you've been playing for awhile.
Right now you're shopping with your eyes but after you learn to play you will be shopping with your ears and your hands. You will find that two guitars sound differently despite being the exact same model.
And if you're going to be doing your own maintenance then you will learn how to change the strings without scratching the hell out of the guitar.
Right now you're shopping with your eyes but after you learn to play you will be shopping with your ears and your hands. You will find that two guitars sound differently despite being the exact same model.
And if you're going to be doing your own maintenance then you will learn how to change the strings without scratching the hell out of the guitar.
Posted on 4/6/19 at 1:10 pm to dbeck
quote:
Right now you're shopping with your eyes but after you learn to play you will be shopping with your ears and your hands. You will find that two guitars sound differently despite being the exact same model.
This. All of my guitars look plain as hell but its all about feel and sound for me. Heck, I was lusting after a beat up old Sigma the other day that looked like shite.
Also, there's no point in spending $2K now cause once you learn to play you're going to need a whole guitar room if you have any disposable income at all. I know exactly zero baws that play guitar that only own one.
Still cheaper than drugs, though not by much.
This post was edited on 4/6/19 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 4/6/19 at 6:48 pm to VABuckeye
Congratulations on wanting to learn guitar, it's a great hobby.
As far as spending $2000 on a new guitar, I would suggest at least checking out used, and or less expensive new guitars. When I started playing in the early 80's, beginner guitars were total crap...not so much today, thanks to the CNC machine. One of the new Epiphone Les Paul's or Squire Strats are great instruments to learn on. They are made pretty well, their biggest flaw is the tuners, which you can easily change out for under a $100.
Also, check out used instruments on your local Craigslist...there are some great deals if you know what to look for.
Good luck in your pursuit, and enjoy !
As far as spending $2000 on a new guitar, I would suggest at least checking out used, and or less expensive new guitars. When I started playing in the early 80's, beginner guitars were total crap...not so much today, thanks to the CNC machine. One of the new Epiphone Les Paul's or Squire Strats are great instruments to learn on. They are made pretty well, their biggest flaw is the tuners, which you can easily change out for under a $100.
Also, check out used instruments on your local Craigslist...there are some great deals if you know what to look for.
Good luck in your pursuit, and enjoy !
Posted on 4/7/19 at 8:15 am to VABuckeye
quote:
borrow... which is probably where I should begin.
I've watched several pianist learn guitar and they've all seemed to pick it up rather quickly. Having an ear plus understanding voicings and scales they just need to pick up a few chords. They've all seemed to have good coordination, practice skills, and music theory.
I'd play several before buying anything. Look for the way it feels in your hand, differences in balance, neck width (at nut and 12th), neck profile (both curve and thickness) and string height (which can be changed). An acoustic is nice to learn on as it'll hide some sloppiness that you'll discover once going electric. They made me play cleaner. Listen for the range of bottom end to top you'll hear differences.... that's probably where that Fender will excel (if as good as advertised) it has several profiles.
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