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I want to learn to play guitar

Posted on 4/2/19 at 6:05 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35541 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 6:05 pm
Backstory: When I was very young I wanted to learn to play guitar. My parents (mom) insisted that I learn to play piano first. Of course, that's all I ever played and I was decent but I didn't love the instrument.

Fast forward to many, many years later and I still want to learn to play guitar.

What should I start with? Of course, knowing me I start doing research and I see this brand new guitar from Fender that does all kinds of incredible things.

Fender American Acoustasonic Telecaster

Is this even reasonable as a first guitar? I know, it's expensive but I have expensive tastes. The question is, is this a guitar I can learn on?

Thank you for any and all input.

ETA: I know I may get slammed for what I want to start with but if I want to go somewhere with something I want something that will take me all the way along the path I want to follow.
This post was edited on 4/2/19 at 6:10 pm
Posted by InwardJim
Member since Dec 2018
656 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 6:55 pm to
$2000 guitar? Go for it!

Seriously though... I would personally not spend that much on a first guitar. Some of the recommendations in this thread may be a good starter guitar for you if you're looking to spend more money than I did initially with my first guitar (Squier Bullet Strat...I'm a cheap-skate). Keep in mind you'll need to spend more on the amp/speakers as well.

Good Luck.

ETA:
Link to reverb demo of your guitar. It's definitely versatile to say the least.
This post was edited on 4/2/19 at 7:11 pm
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12280 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 8:21 pm to
I say go for it. If you have the money to do it then it's a no brainer. Will give you that much more motivation to actually stick with it.
Posted by TigerRanter
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
6704 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:05 pm to
If you can afford it, it’s not too expensive.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7431 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:21 pm to
Just starting myself. Went budget with a Yamaha FG700S which, based on my own extensive research, is pretty much accepted as the go-to beginner's acoustic guitar.

While I'll obviously defer to those who know what the frick they're talking about, I've always heard it's best to start with an acoustic and then move to an electric. The way it was explained to me was that an acoustic forces you to actually hit/learn your chords/notes, whereas an electric can hide deficiencies and make it so you never really learn to play properly.
Posted by Easye921
Mobile
Member since Jan 2013
2344 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 5:21 am to
Just my opinion, but that thing has gotten awful reviews.. if you have 2k to spend, you can get an amazing guitar for that price, especially used.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35541 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 6:08 am to
Thanks for the replies. The reviews I’ve read were all very positive. I’ll do more research on it.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27956 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 6:28 am to
I think it will be perfect. I really want one too.
I think it would be better to just play it like an acoustic, without an amp, until you start learning the basics pretty well.
Get a good teacher and let him/her guide you on that.

Posted by bgoodwin
Cullman, Al
Member since Sep 2011
589 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 6:38 am to
Whatever you buy, have it set up properly, it can make a huge difference on the playability of the guitar. Any decent guitar can be made to play well, with the proper adjustments.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 6:39 am
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35541 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:19 am to
quote:

I think it would be better to just play it like an acoustic, without an amp, until you start learning the basics pretty well.


That's my thought as well. Hopefully my piano background will help although I haven't touched a keyboard in a long time.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26995 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:45 am to
quote:

That's my thought as well. Hopefully my piano background will help although I haven't touched a keyboard in a long time.



Acoustic is a good choice. Do some research on what a good string height and neck relief should be. You will find some very nice guitars in a big budget range that STILL have a sky high action.

Posted by TheFretShack
Member since Oct 2015
1240 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:47 am to
If I had expensive tastes and wanted to buy straight out of the gate a great guitar I could learn on effortlessly, never outgrow and potentially retain if not escalate in value as it aged ... keep in mind this isn't a comprehensive list, this is just stuff that immediately crossed my mind.

Acoustics: Bourgeois, Breedlove USA, Collings, Gibson Custom Shop, Santa Cruz, Martin Guitars Custom Shop

Electrics: Tom Anderson Guitar Works, James Tyler, Roger Sadowsky, Collings, Knaggs, John Suhr, James Trussart, PRS Private Stock.

Every guitar you will find by those manufacturers should be well over $2K on the used market. Expect new, street prices to at least double that.
Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
3244 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:00 am to
quote:

If I had expensive tastes and wanted to buy straight out of the gate a great guitar I could learn on effortlessly, never outgrow and potentially retain if not escalate in value as it aged ...


quote:

Acoustics: Bourgeois, Breedlove USA, Collings, Gibson Custom Shop, Santa Cruz, Martin Guitars Custom Shop


As always fret shack for the win.

My advice as well. A Collings or Martin, etc is only going to increase in value. Not sure about the hybrid.

ETA: I find a lot of beginners, myself included, are worried about how the guitar looks. Forget about looks. Get some in your hands and see how they feel. Notice the string height on several different guitars. See what feels good to you. If your budget is that high, you can find something that feels good. Worry about looks later.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 8:06 am
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35541 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:13 am to
Thank you for the advice and you're right, I really like how that guitar looks.

I'm not going to pull the trigger for at least a month or two and this thread has given me a lot to think about. Hell, maybe I'll just buy one of David Gilmour's guitars from the auction (one of the less expensive ones) and learn on that. I certainly would be a good conversation starter.

Fret Shack. As I get closer to a decision would you mind if I called you to pick your brain for a few minutes once I narrow things down.

Thanks again all. The input is greatly appreciated.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89529 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:15 am to
quote:

Is this even reasonable as a first guitar?


There is nothing wrong with the guitar. I have an American made Stratocaster solid body myself, so I'm not against the brand or spending money on a guitar.

It does feel like a very specific guitar and I would not recommend it for a new player. First of all, that's eating up a lot of budget with 1 purchase.

You can, for example, buy a Yamaha Pacifica, a decent amp and a Seagull acoustic for about what you're going to sink in this thing. You have no idea what you're going to like or not like right now as a novice.

And finally, unless you're a performer, you don't need something quite as specific as this. If you're going to play acoustic, get acoustic (or a more "traditional" acoustic-electric, if you're going to play plugged in). You can spend thousands and thousands on a mid/high tier Martin, Taylor or half a dozen other brands (I would stick with Seagull or Yamaha or an equivalent high value for the buck brand). If you're going to play electric - get an electric. Budget is even more important there because you're going to need a quality amp, cables, eventually effects pedals (or a modeler, it is the 21st Century after all), etc.

So, bravo for picking up the hobby. But perhaps pursue a somewhat more conventional path, because conventional wisdom usually has some solid logic behind it.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 9:18 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89529 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:21 am to
quote:

James Tyler


FS I hate to hijack the thread, but have you come across any of his Variax models? Since Yamaha bought Line 6 (I do have an old Pod Pedal that was a fun toy, for sure), they're really pardon the pun "amped up" the quality of their Variax. They do the standard in a Pacifica (which isn't bad at all), and their more premium they work with Tyler. On a side note, they work with Bogner for their hybrid amp.

I'm just wondering about durability because that has always been the knock on Line 6 equipment.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67088 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:34 am to
I would never advise a beginner spend more than $400 on their first guitar, but I'm also a cheap bastard.
Posted by TheFretShack
Member since Oct 2015
1240 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:29 pm to
No experience with any of the Variax stuff, just with the upper end stuff and their new MIJ line, which is absolutely stellar.
Posted by Easye921
Mobile
Member since Jan 2013
2344 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

Im not going to pull the trigger for at least a month or two and this thread has given me a lot to think about. Hell, maybe I'll just buy one of David Gilmour's guitars from the auction (one of the less expensive ones) and learn on that. I certainly would be a good conversation
starter. 


Now your talking. I'm drooling over his P90 Les Paul he has for sale.
Posted by meaux5
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2010
11010 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 3:22 pm to
2K?!? I would never spend that on a first guitar. What if you don't want to continue playing? You can get great used guitars for a quarter of that.


I've been playing for over ten years and don't have a guitar that expensive.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 3:27 pm
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