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Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:12 pm to
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:12 pm to
if it comes on the radio, I won't turn it off like I will when pearl jam comes on.
Posted by ILoveLamp
Florida
Member since Aug 2009
4303 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:32 pm to
'Hotel Califonia' and 'Take It Easy' are both great songs, and I'm 22.
Posted by lesgeaux
Member since Jul 2008
3987 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:57 pm to
Never understood the hate for the Eagles...

Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:58 pm to
no one has mentioned them ripping the base of HC from Jethro Tull

listen... We Used To Know

Ian Anderson on it:

SF: Your song “We Used To Know” is certainly an influence on “Hotel California.” Can you talk about that?

Ian: It was a piece of music that we were playing around the time… I believe it was late ’71, maybe early ’72 when we were on tour and we had a support band who had been signed up for the tour, and subsequently, before the tour began, had a hit single. The song, I believe, called “Take It Easy.” And they were indeed the Eagles. We didn’t interact with them very much because they were countrified laid back polite rock, and we were a bit wacky and English and doing weird stuff. And I don’t think they liked us, and we didn’t much like them. There was no communication, really, at all. Just a polite observance of each other’s space when it came to sound checks and show time. But they probably heard us play the song, because that would have featured in the sets back then, and maybe it was just something they kind of picked up on subconsciously, and introduced that chord sequence into their famous song “Hotel California” sometime later. But, you know, it’s not plagiarism. It’s just the same chord sequence. It’s in a different time signature, different key, different context. And it’s a very, very fine song that they wrote, so I can’t feel anything other than a sense of happiness for their sake. And I feel flattered that they came across that chord sequence. But it’s difficult to find a chord sequence that hasn’t been used, and hasn’t been the focus of lots of pieces of music. It’s harmonic progression is almost a mathematical certainty you’re gonna crop up with the same thing sooner or later if you sit strumming a few chords on a guitar.

There’s certainly no bitterness or any sense of plagiarism attached to my view on it, although I do sometimes allude, in a joking way, to accepting it as a kind of tribute. It’s a bit like this tribute Rolex that I’m wearing.

SF: (laughing) You can get those in New York City.

Ian: Well, a counterfeit, or a knockoff, I’m making the obvious joke. That’s just getting a laugh on stage. Fair game.
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Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:03 pm to
the eagles in general have never bothered me...
Posted by Dr. 3
Member since Mar 2005
11368 posts
Posted on 6/14/12 at 12:56 am to
When Felder and Walsh were doing their thing, they were money. Listen to the 77 tour where they absotely killed Turn to Stone.
Posted by Chitter Chatter
In and Out of Consciousness
Member since Sep 2009
4667 posts
Posted on 6/14/12 at 8:02 am to
quote:

Lying Eyes


Great song.

There are a few that I punch out when they come on the radio but others are underrated: Victim of Love, Wasted Time, Those Shoes, Too Many Hands.

Their 5th single, Outlaw Man (between Tequila Sunrise and Already Gone), bombed but I think it's damn good

Outlaw man
Posted by BLIZZAKE7
BRLA
Member since Apr 2005
6268 posts
Posted on 6/14/12 at 8:58 am to
Seven Bridges Road
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 6/14/12 at 10:04 pm to
Fwiw I like the eagles.
Just hate that particular song.

Sorta like all of my love from LZ.
Just doesn't do it for me.
Posted by OldTigahFot
Drinkin' with the rocket scientists
Member since Jan 2012
10507 posts
Posted on 6/14/12 at 10:15 pm to
quote:

Fwiw I like the eagles.
Just hate that particular song.


I have always been an Eagles fan. But that song tends to get tiresome because I've heard it so many times. Just like Freebird, Stairway to Heaven and a few others. Great songs but you can only listen to them so much before they become stale. If I hear them once a year, that's usually plenty.

Plus, I have seen many bands live growing up in the 60's, and the Eagles are right up there with the best of them when on stage.

Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
16384 posts
Posted on 6/14/12 at 11:39 pm to
quote:

It's like people saying they hate 'Stairway to Heaven' or something (not comparing the to)

But I feel there's lots of old classics that people loathe if only for the fact that we get them rammed down our throat decade after decade and in turn we end up loathing the band
and their entire sound


There's always a contrarian backlash to anything deemed "One of the Greatest..." when backed by majority opinion. But the problem with taking the road less traveled is that the contrarian eventually gets exposed when you find out his list of "The Greatest....", which in this particular case is probably some dude who grew up on Jewel or the Spin Doctors and hates whatever his dad liked.

I'm not even a big Eagles fan, but here's why Hotel California is One of The Greatest Songs of All-Time. It is filled with cryptic metaphorical lyrics that takes on various interpretations for various individuals. It has haunting but melodic composition of notes. It has an epic 12-string intro and one of the most memorable guitar solos in rock history.

Is it slightly stale? I think you could make that case for any 35 year old oft-aired "classic", but just the fact that it is still being talked about proves it is a building block of Rock N Roll history which in turn negates the casual "it-sucks!" dismissal by some misguided tards.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/15/12 at 2:08 am to
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LSUFreek


Posted by TideHater
Orange Beach AL
Member since May 2007
19962 posts
Posted on 6/15/12 at 4:42 am to
[quote]I'm not even a big Eagles fan, but here's why Hotel California is One of The Greatest Songs of All-Time. It is filled with cryptic metaphorical lyrics that takes on various interpretations for various individuals.


Anton Levay is rolling over in his grave.
Posted by Da Hammer
Folsom
Member since May 2008
6018 posts
Posted on 6/15/12 at 6:32 am to
Neat thing about the eagles is how they were able to change their sound when Joe Walsh and Don Felder got together.

Seven Bridges road is likely my favorite Eagles song. I still enjoy Hotel California, however the fact that they spent two months writing the lyrics meeting at night to change and refine them bothers me, seems like it makes a song "forced"
Posted by TideHater
Orange Beach AL
Member since May 2007
19962 posts
Posted on 6/15/12 at 6:34 am to
I have seen Joe Walsh live many times. If you ever get the chance....go see him. Great show.

eagles suck though
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
13108 posts
Posted on 6/15/12 at 6:44 am to
Hotel California is one of the greatest rock song of all time and is on one of the best albums of all time. I will never get tired of listening to it. Im 25. frick the dude.
Posted by TideHater
Orange Beach AL
Member since May 2007
19962 posts
Posted on 6/15/12 at 6:48 am to
I have it in my collection but it is lame. I love the album cover and back cover. It really is Anton Levay on the ledge in the background shot. He was the founder of the first church of satan.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 6/15/12 at 8:25 am to
I hate it as well. It's on my list of "never need to hear again" along with "Sweet Home Alabama" and "Fix you."

ETA: I generally like the Eagles, but HC has been played too much. It's especially painful watching people make contorted faces while they sing the words to each other.
This post was edited on 6/15/12 at 8:30 am
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