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Gilmore EMG's for a Strat - Undecided

Posted on 5/25/26 at 8:35 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75962 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 8:35 pm
Y'all help me make up my mind.

I bought these close to 20 years ago and tried to put them into a Korean Epiphone strat knockoff, think Frankenstrat. I could never get them to work, I can't solder (essential tremor), and the guitar/pups sitting in closets ever since.

I'm seeing a luthier for a different matter and thinking about taking this with me and asking him to make it work.

That's option A.




Option B- I have a stock USA strat 1995. Have him take these out of the Epiphone and put them into the real strat.


Keep in mind, I can't solder so it's not a job I can do or undo on my own. If I change my mind later, it costs me more money to have someone do it.


Please vote. Please guide me, ye wise men of the Music Board.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31823 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:59 am to
Have you played these same type pickups on another guitar and know that sound is what you want? Do they fit with what you want to play?
If it absolutely is, then get it done but make sure it's on a guitar that you love the feel of.
People talk about chasing tone, you better be chasing more than that.
Put the good stuff on your favorite.
This post was edited on 5/26/26 at 3:23 am
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
18697 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:10 am to
Pickups are magnets and copper wire. Some are stronger than others. You create tone with amps/modules and effects. Don't tell us you can't solder. YouTube it and practice for 30 minutes, and you'll be as good as your luthier. Make sure the wiring is correct. Don't be lazy. Whatever you want, you can make it happen.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75962 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

Don't tell us you can't solder. YouTube it


Bro, I am officially diagnosed with "essential tremor:. YouTube it, and you can be a neurologist in 30 minutes.
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
18697 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 9:12 pm to
Sorry, I wasn't aware of your condition. I wish the best for you. I was only trying to push you toward a better version of yourself.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75962 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

Have you played these same type pickups on another guitar and know that sound is what you want?


I haven't, but I'm in a sound/tone rut and want to change things up.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31823 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 12:21 am to
Maybe your tech can check those pickups to make sure they will work before installing?
Or here is an EMG Gilmore loaded pickguard with solderless connections that you could install yourself. Includes jack.
LINK
Posted by TheFretShack
Member since Oct 2015
1381 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:51 am to
If anyone thinks a guitar pickup is just a magnetized copper coil, be sure to order tripe or even hooves instead of prime rib next time you visit a steak house. Because piece of cow is piece of cow, right? :) Seriously, pickups shape and shift a player's tone as much as they transmit signal, just as much as different amp and pedal types.

Beyond overall signal output ... factors pertaining to a passive pickup's coil alone that influence voice include but are not limited to coil wire thickness, insulation material and insulation thickness; turn count; wire tension and wire turns per layer.

Equally important to passive pickup voicing is magnet material, magnet size, magnet placement, magnet charge; and the collective metallurgy within the assembly. From plated metal covers to the different grades of steel used in pole screws and slugs, different alloys create different tonal results.

In the case of actives (EMG, Fishman, Bartolini, Live Wires), the preamp itself is a critical component in the assembly's voice. The preamp enables big huge output from sweet voicings typically only achieved via low to medium output passives.

The EMG Gilmour set is great for everything PF and really everything SSS. Be sure to integrate a "Gilmour switch" into the circuit if your assembly doesn't have it. It enables VERY utile "neck + bridge" and "all three pickups" as selection options. The Gilmour mod can be done with an added mini-toggle; or hidden in a push-pull pot to keep a stock S-type look. Google "Gilmour switch" for details.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27913 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 1:53 pm to
Good thread and let us know how it went.

I have a beat up old strat by Squier that the 5 way switch went out on. I love the feel of this guitar and specifically the neck is perfect for me and I played it for years when I was just goofing around. Once it broke, I find out it was not worth very much but it plays so well I might want to put 250 into it with something like that Gilmore EMG loaded pick guard.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75962 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

Squier that the 5 way switch went out on. I love the feel of this guitar and specifically the neck is perfect for me and I played it for years when I was just goofing around. Once it broke, I find out it was not worth very much but it plays so well I might want to put 250 into it with something like that Gilmore EMG loaded pick guard.


Ensure the squire cutout is the same as a "real" strat or the drop-in pick guard won't fit right. It's the reason I can't use one in the epi-strat.
This post was edited on 6/1/26 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Easye921
Mobile
Member since Jan 2013
3294 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:17 pm to
I have the Gilmour set on one of my Strats and I love em. Lots of ton sculpting can be done with the two tone controls. One is a mid boost that can get you into humbucker territory. The other is a treble and bass boost, which can sound great, as well. I love that for clean stuff. These pickups are a must have if your trying to nail that Pulse tone.
This post was edited on 6/1/26 at 9:22 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75962 posts
Posted on 6/1/26 at 10:58 pm to
quote:


I have the Gilmour set on one of my Strats and I love em. Lots of ton sculpting can be done with the two tone controls. One is a mid boost that can get you into humbucker territory. The other is a treble and bass boost, which can sound great, as well. I love that for clean stuff. These pickups are a must have if your trying to nail that Pulse tone.


How much of a bitch factor is it to change the battery?
Posted by Jef75
Ponchatoula, LA
Member since Jul 2009
138 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 8:30 am to
I had a us strat with the gilmore loaded pickguard and it was the best sounding guitar I've ever owned. I regret selling it every time I pick up whatever junk I'm playing now
Posted by TheFretShack
Member since Oct 2015
1381 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 10:11 am to
If the Strat is a player's tool, you can add a fast-access battery box to the back of the guitar. Here's a step by step I did a few years ago ...

Adding a battery box to a PRS Brent Mason Signature

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If you want fast 9V access with no mods ... store it in the trem cavity between two heavy tension springs. Run the 9V clip leads into the conrol cavity through the claw ground's wire channel.


Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75962 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 10:36 am to
What is a player's tool?
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31823 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 10:51 am to
quote:

What is a player's tool?

I think he means " If you are gigging with the guitar and need to be able to make a quick battery change".
Regardless, the trem cavity is the perfect location for the battery on a Strat.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31823 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:26 am to
I think he's good to go on the Squier.
Posted by TheFretShack
Member since Oct 2015
1381 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:40 pm to
A guitar in which the player is not reluctant to permanently modify to suit the instrument to his or her needs or tastes, i.e. a "tool" for the task at hand.
Posted by Easye921
Mobile
Member since Jan 2013
3294 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

How much of a bitch factor is it to change the battery?


Just unscrew a few screws on the pickguard and that's it. Takes about 5 minutes, but you shouldn't need to change it often. I change my battery about once a year.
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