re: Explain Dylan

Remember when Dylan was detained in 2009 in NJ because the cops thought he was homeless just wandering around in the rain?

ABC News

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Forty years after Woodstock, Bob Dylan is mistaken for a homeless man.

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Bob Dylan was detained by police in Long Branch, N.J. last month, when a young officer failed to recognize him, police said. The officer proceeded to go to earnest lengths to ensure the hooded, disheveled, rain-soaked music legend was, in fact, who he said he was.

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"I asked him what his name was and he said, 'Bob Dylan,' Buble said. "Now, I've seen pictures of Bob Dylan from a long time ago and he didn't look like Bob Dylan to me at all. He was wearing black sweatpants tucked into black rain boots, and two raincoats with the hood pulled down over his head.

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She asked for identification, but Dylan said he had none. She asked where he was staying and he said his tour buses were parked at some big hotel on the ocean. Buble said she assumed that to be the nearby Ocean Place Conference Resort.

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"OK Bob, why don't you get in the car and we'll drive to the hotel and go verify this?' " she said she told him. "I put him in the back of the car. To be honest with you, I didn't really believe this was Bob Dylan. It never crossed my mind that this could really be him."

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"He was really nice, though, and he said he understood why I had to verify his identity and why I couldn't let him go," Buble said. "He asked me if I could drive him back to the neighborhood when I verified who he was, which made me even more suspicious.

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"I pulled into the parking lot," she said, "and sure enough there were these enormous tour buses, and I thought, 'Whoa.'"

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One thing that annoys me about him is how often he DID NOT write the melody.

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What a fckn tool you are. Your link lists 33 songs. He wrote/published around 1000, and you seem to imply some kind of theft or that he lifted entire melodies for those 33 songs, which is absurd (it really irks you that he does what every other musician does - uses his influences to build a song? Laughable.) Your link uses We Shall Overcome, which itself was based on a previous song. "Hard Rain" from your list is based on a 17th century ballad. Several of those songs in your list are based on ballads that are a few hunred years old, but you want to claim it "annoys" you how often he DID NOT write the melody.

Get out of here with that bs,

First Rapper. Great song writer. Unique voice. Free spirit. I got to see him live on Long Island when he switched to electric guitar. I loved his new sound but half the stadium booed him. He proved the folkies wrong in the end. A living legend.

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Bob Dylan's nose

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Big Scrub will be here soon to claim Dylan stole that nose from John Lennon.

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First Rapper

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nobody's perfect

& Woody Guthrie was rapping 20+ yrs before Bob

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if talking blues = rap then yes it is an ancient art form

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he doesn't spit out the words in short bursts, and generally doesn't have more than one "rhyme" in each line, but the basic form is still there. A socio-musicologist might say the form was modified and speeded up by urbanized blacks.

The original "raps" were probably from travelling one man bands, busking or working in "I tell ya what I'm gonna do" patent medicine shows. Harmonica Frank, who recorded for Sun at the same time as Elvis, came out of this tradition



I admit I am certainly no expert on rap.

But I once saw a film clip from a 40s musical in which a (black) guy clearly raps.

And there was the black practice of "playing the dozens", street contests where guys improvised insults against each other. Somebody put a rhythmic beat behind this and...

Indeed improvisation, once the key aspect of rap, seems to have been forgotten in the rap culture of today.

Again, I am no expert. I'm sure you know more about it than I do

Thanks. There's no doubt that Bob Dylan was influenced by Woody Guthrie.