re: Does The Average Person Have Poor Music Taste?

No, I made that statement to talk about quality.


My OP was to bring forth discussion and I asked from two point of views.

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I listen to things I like and I don't care what anyone says about the music I listen to. Its my taste, not yours.

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Yes, and that's the context of the thread.

OP didn't start a thread about instrumental skill, or vocal range, etc.

This thread is about TASTE -- something that is subjective by definition.

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You're likely more of a casual music listener though, and that's fine too.

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Nah, music is and will always be one of the biggest aspects of my life. I listen to music during just about everything I do. I go to probably a dozen concerts a year.

I get why people wouldn't like Same Hunt, my wife doesn't care for him. But I find his music catchy, I dunno I just like it haha.

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Have you read this thread?

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Yeah, on Page 3 you skipped my question about getting into specifics. Now you're not explaining yourself again.

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That people that are casual listeners stay in that bubble of top 40 hits instead of branching out?

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Again, how can you square that with your Jessica Alba analogy?

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Those that stick to just what's on the radio, which is of a lesser quality overall, are likely casual listeners only. Those with a deeper appreciation for music have a better understanding of higher quality. The people I know of that listen to stuff like the Allman Bros, Sam Cooke, etc...

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I've listened to a lot of older music in my life, including many of the artists you've mentioned in this thread -- Sam Cooke, The Allman Brothers, Bob Dylan, etc. -- but sometimes I prefer new popular music. And evidently, most people do! (Back to the Jessica Alba analogy.)

And what exactly is meant by deeper appreciation? How is deepness measured? Perhaps people who listen to the radio appreciate music in a different way than you do? Perhaps there are also instances in which some of these people have a deeper appreciation for music than you do! Or have you reached the deepest level of human appreciation for music?

There was a comment earlier in the thread about obscure music, and I think in many cases (NOT ALL cases) there is a psychological dynamic associated with people who like more obscure music and/or older music (and scoff at popular music) in which they develop a kind of personal identity attachment to the music they like, and tie their ego up with their taste, so they get an ego charge, so to speak, about the music they like. It's a way for them to feel superior to other people.

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Am I wrong for saying music such as that is of a higher quality than music such as Florida Georgia Line? Absolutely not.

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There is a general semantic problem here. There are a lot of different meanings for the word quality. You're using it very loosely, in an informal sense, but also in an objective sense, to talk about TASTE! Taste is subjective. If you want to talk about Skill Quality of specific musicians, then it will make more sense if you're precise in your wording, but in terms of people's taste, it still makes for a very nebulous discussion.

CheeseburgerEddie talks about getting up and "wailing on stage" on Page 5, but that's not really the context of this thread. When you talk about people's taste in music, you're essentially talking about their favorite artists, what they enjoy listening to. That generally includes people who have different variations of Musical Skill. As I mentioned earlier, we could break this discussion down to sounds that human ears-brains do not like (obviously excluding people who are totally deaf), and talk objectively, and even scientifically (to an extent) about that. But when we're on the other side of the spectrum, talking about sounds that people do like, there is obviously going to be variation.

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But liking just that is what I consider poor taste because it's so limited.

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Who exactly are you talking about? And how do you know they are limited? I'm sure it applies in some cases, but your idea certainly is not absolute, and I don't know how broadly it applies. People have a lot of access to different types of music through different technologies. I don't think I'm limited in the types of music that I've listened to in my life, and I'm sure I would prefer a lot of music that is more popular over what you consider to be "quality" music. You're using the word quality objectively to mean CocoLoco's taste (taste means individual preference).

He asked how do we define what is of a higher quality in music, then compared it to women which he was referring to as different preferences. Even though preferences exist we can still judge what is better, even in music, film, food, etc.


Some people would like Roseanne, but we can recognize that Jessica Alba is of a higher quality. In this case, Florida Georgia line would be Roseanne and someone like Derek Trucks would be Jessica alba. Yea, Jessica alba is popular, she's beautiful, but he was asking how can we determine quality or not. She has the looks we can objectively say are better than Roseanne. People like McDonald's but we can recognize that killer poboys in Nola is of a higher quality. At a certain point we can recognize that certain things are in fact better than others. Someone might enjoy Florida Georgia line, and not Hendrix, but Hendrix is of a higher quality. Anyone with a good ear for music, like Hendrix or not, knows Hendrix is of a high quality. In this case higher quality corresponds with a higher taste quality.

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You're using popularity in preference to say that Jessica Alba is more beautiful (and I totally agree with this), yet you flip the argument when talking about music.

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It has nothing to do with popularity. Jessica Alba is beautiful. Anyone that says Roseanne is has poor taste. Maybe they like ugly women.......good for them.

And yes, you can say Jimi Hendrix music is better that Beyonces, because it is a fact. Some music is better than other music and some people tend to like music that isn't all that great. It's ok, they just don't have great taste for music.

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Who's to say what the context of this conversation was. It may mean one thig to you but something totally different to someone else. It's all a matter of taste and is totally subjective.

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I agree. It's all subjective. Nothing in this world is good or bad. It's just all what each persons opinion is.

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I agree. It's all subjective. Nothing in this world is good or bad. It's just all what each persons opinion is.

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Yes but some opinions are more educated than others.