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Could the Beatles have replaced John Lennon?

Posted on 10/17/21 at 6:43 pm
Posted by L1C4
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Posted on 10/17/21 at 6:43 pm
McCartney says it was Lennon that wanted to break up the band.

They wouldn't have been the same band, but they probably could have kept on.
Posted by DaleGribble
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Posted on 10/17/21 at 7:00 pm to
What would be the point?

Led Zeppelin could have gotten another drummer but it wouldn't be the same band.
Posted by L1C4
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Posted on 10/17/21 at 7:17 pm to
Lennon's talents were just average.
It's no secret that he held George Harrison back.

They would have a different sound but still would have been a good band.
Posted by TexTigah81
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 10/17/21 at 7:18 pm to
This question is too STUPID to even answer!
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/17/21 at 7:49 pm to
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Lennon's talents were just average.


Yeah. He's just one of the greatest songwriters to ever live.
Posted by SEClint
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/17/21 at 8:16 pm to
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could have gotten another drummer but it wouldn't be the same band.


May be the greatest compliment a drummer can be paid. Especially nowadays.
Posted by SEClint
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/17/21 at 8:30 pm to
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Lennon's talents were just average.


Compared to who?

You can say Dave Grohl was more talented than Kurt Cobain, but look what happened to that band when Kurt was gone. You can't really successfully replace the people who connect to the audience. Especially a singer who is the voice of that art..

Dave is still riding those coattails strong though. I'll give him credit for making the most of it.
This post was edited on 10/17/21 at 8:40 pm
Posted by moock blackjack
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Posted on 10/17/21 at 10:18 pm to
Harry Nilsson was once rumored to take Lennon’s place
Posted by EA6B
TX
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Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:59 am to
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Yeah. He's just one of the greatest songwriters to ever live.


Exactly, thinking up the stuff they did was a million times more important than the mechanics of playing it.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/18/21 at 1:01 am to
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Dave is still riding those coattails strong though. I'll give him credit for making the most of it.


There are a ton of Foo Fighter fans that have no idea Dave was in Nirvana, I was one of them.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 10/18/21 at 1:04 am to
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Lennon's talents were just average.
Posted by Avante
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 10/18/21 at 2:38 am to
Nope!

John Lennon has to be there just like Mean Joe Greene has to be in The Steel Curtain,
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 10/18/21 at 3:08 am to
Harrison wanted out too. So, assuming Paul could have gained legal ownership of the name and talked Ringo into staying with him, would the Beatles w/ Paul and Ringo + 2 have worked? Would have made a little money touring, but probably less successful than he was solo.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 3:32 am to
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There are a ton of Foo Fighter fans that have no idea Dave was in Nirvana, I was one of them.


Plenty of wings fans probably felt the same
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:21 am to
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What would be the point?
The same point as AC/DC replacing Bon Scott when he died.
Or Van Halen replacing DLR.
Or the Beach Boys replacing some of their members.

As far as Lennon being so great, did he do as much as Paul and George after the Beatles broke up?
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
14736 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:37 am to
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Harrison wanted out too. So, assuming Paul could have gained legal ownership of the name and talked Ringo into staying with him, would the Beatles w/ Paul and Ringo + 2 have worked? Would have made a little money touring, but probably less successful than he was solo.
But Paul getting the boot and the rest staying would have been long lasting good.
Posted by Spook
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Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:50 am to
yes
This post was edited on 5/30/22 at 8:14 am
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
6821 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:02 am to
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As far as Lennon being so great, did he do as much as Paul and George after the Beatles broke up?



Uh, yeah. He took an extended break in the 70s and still had similar success as a solo artist before he died. Double Fantasy was his best album and it came out weeks before he was killed.

As cheesey as they were, Wings had some really catchy songs. But it's been decades since Paul Mccartney wrote a decent song.

Van Halen sounded like a completely different band when DLR left and Brian Wilson was still involved behind the scenes, so I don't get these comparisons.

AC/DC isn't the Beatles. They only had a couple of hits before they had to replace Bon Scott.
Posted by Socrates Johnson
Madisonville
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 10/18/21 at 3:05 pm to
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As far as Lennon being so great, did he do as much as Paul and George after the Beatles broke up?


I love George, but his greatness was enhanced by its perceived relativity to his “output” with the Beatles. I agree, though, that John’s solo output was splotchy.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71173 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 3:19 pm to
George Harrison had a bigger solo career album than any post Beatle. Ringo actually has more hits on a songwriting credit basis than any other post Beatle. McCartney was the most successful overall with all of his “silly love songs”. Lennon was the least successful by every metric, but he also didn’t want to be. He wanted to make his weird avant garde bullshite with yoko.

If the Beatles had tried to replace him, I think they would have survived and been okay, but I don’t see them maintaining relevancy as a band for very long deep into the 70’s. Zeppelin had already made their sound anachronistic, and I think they needed Lennon’s edginess to progress and drive change rather than simply adapt or react to it.

The reality is they needed each other. They needed Lennon’s edginess to innovate. They needed Paul’s silly love songs and Ringo’s goofy fun songs for mainstream appeal, and they needed George’s emotional depth to be taken seriously. The Beatles was greater than the sum of its parts.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 3:38 pm
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