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re: Black Keys... Pop?
Posted on 1/30/13 at 2:22 pm to TexasTiger1185
Posted on 1/30/13 at 2:22 pm to TexasTiger1185
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That is straight up rock and roll brother. It doesn't get made today by many people, but they are one.
To say that the black keys are "pop" music because they are "popular" is pretty ignorant.
If that's the case, then radiohead is a "pop" band right? They are pretty "popular"
I swear, this board is hilarious sometimes. 
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 3:06 pm to TheDoc
I consider Black Keys Rock-n-Roll or Blues Rock if asked.
But Pop Music uses elements from other styles whether it's rock, urban, EDM, country, etc. And pop music typically uses 4:4 beat,simple verse structure or verse contrasting-chorus and 12 bar blues progression. Do the Black Keys fall into that?
But Pop Music uses elements from other styles whether it's rock, urban, EDM, country, etc. And pop music typically uses 4:4 beat,simple verse structure or verse contrasting-chorus and 12 bar blues progression. Do the Black Keys fall into that?
This post was edited on 1/30/13 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 1/30/13 at 3:06 pm to TheDoc
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Yeah, you don't know what the hell you're talking about
Pop music = popular music
Black keys = popular music
black keys = pop music.
Pretty simple. Why you cant grasp that, im not sure. They even suck like most pop music.
This post was edited on 1/30/13 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 1/30/13 at 3:38 pm to TreyAnastasio
Run along now, the adults are discussing music.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 3:55 pm to TreyAnastasio
Jesus H Christ!! Do some of you not understand that it depends on context?!?!?
Or are you going to argue it for the next 23 pages??
Or are you going to argue it for the next 23 pages??
Posted on 1/30/13 at 3:57 pm to TreyAnastasio
Cognitive dissonance
Pop is being used like it is ''sound'' or ''style'' of music. Really isn't it just used to describe music that has become popular?
Did the Black Keys set out to make a ''pop album"? Or did they just do their thing and it became popular?
I think their is a difference
Pop is being used like it is ''sound'' or ''style'' of music. Really isn't it just used to describe music that has become popular?
Did the Black Keys set out to make a ''pop album"? Or did they just do their thing and it became popular?
I think their is a difference
This post was edited on 1/30/13 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:03 pm to TreyAnastasio
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Thats cute
Are you saying that the Black Keys aren't popular? I find that kind of hard to believe. According to the billboard charts they are very popular.
I just...
Here let me explain it:
Popular =\= pop music
Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:05 pm to TheDoc
i guess you are... Doc I knew you were good for a good 15 pages on your own
Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:05 pm to TFTC
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Jesus H Christ!! Do some of you not understand that it depends on context?!?!?
Or are you going to argue it for the next 23 pages??
he really doesn't understand that just because a band may be "popular" that doesn't make them a "pop band" or someone that songs "pop" music. Are the Alabama shakes "pop music"?
No.
Are the foo fighters "pop"?
laughable
Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:06 pm to TFTC
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i guess you are... Doc I knew you were good for a good 15 pages on your own
I just laugh and shake my head how someone doesn't understand the difference between "pop music" and music that is popular.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:09 pm to TheDoc
I think you two are just arguing two different uses of the term... and they could be applied within a certain context
so, its like pissing in the wind...
so, its like pissing in the wind...
Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:11 pm to TreyAnastasio
I guess this makes Phish the kings of modern day pop music.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:12 pm to TheDoc
quote:
Popular =\= pop music
Except that exactly what pop music means.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:12 pm to TheDoc
It's not laughable at all. It's practically undeniable. I mean, you can make a case a lot of indie rock isn't pop for reasons of popularity, but a mainstream act like the Foo Fighters? They are aiming at a large mainstream audience and hit the sweet spot. They are consciously pop.
Dave Grohl used to be in a legit hardcore punk band (Scream) and still occasionally guests on a legit heavy metal act with little to know mainstream appeal (Killing Joke). I'd still argue those two outlying acts are also "pop" in the sense they are also part of the pop music machinery, but the Foo Fighters is so obviously created to make arena rock that will, well, fill arenas that it seems so thick-headed to deny their pop sensibilities.
OF COURSE, it's pop. It's really pop. Just about everything Foo Fighters do is done with hooking a large audience in mind, especially when you look at his side projects (and the other members, the rhythm section was in Sunny Day Real estate and Pat Smear was in the Screamers, and act so hardcore they never released an album because their lead singer died of a heroin overdose).
Though I'd even argue the most out there hardcore art punk band is also making pop music. And it ain't popular at all. But it is aiming for mass consumption.
Dave Grohl used to be in a legit hardcore punk band (Scream) and still occasionally guests on a legit heavy metal act with little to know mainstream appeal (Killing Joke). I'd still argue those two outlying acts are also "pop" in the sense they are also part of the pop music machinery, but the Foo Fighters is so obviously created to make arena rock that will, well, fill arenas that it seems so thick-headed to deny their pop sensibilities.
OF COURSE, it's pop. It's really pop. Just about everything Foo Fighters do is done with hooking a large audience in mind, especially when you look at his side projects (and the other members, the rhythm section was in Sunny Day Real estate and Pat Smear was in the Screamers, and act so hardcore they never released an album because their lead singer died of a heroin overdose).
Though I'd even argue the most out there hardcore art punk band is also making pop music. And it ain't popular at all. But it is aiming for mass consumption.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:13 pm to Baloo
From a musicological perspective, I think The Black Keys would fulfill most arbitrary requisites I could list for "Pop".
My... you could say... cultural intuition finds it an odd designation for them, though. "Pop" has gone in many different instrumental and production directions since the digital paradigm took over, but I think that I, like most people, still associate the generic term with electronic and synth-oriented music. Guitars and acoustic drums are still functional elements of the music, but they are not the driving force.
Since it's hard to figure out what "Pop" even resembles anymore (plurality of styles, and all that shite), it seems useless to use the term as anything other than a modifier for some subset: Pop Country, Pop Rock, Pop Punk, et al. These are by no means any more rigid and clear in meaning, but I think they are more practical.
My... you could say... cultural intuition finds it an odd designation for them, though. "Pop" has gone in many different instrumental and production directions since the digital paradigm took over, but I think that I, like most people, still associate the generic term with electronic and synth-oriented music. Guitars and acoustic drums are still functional elements of the music, but they are not the driving force.
Since it's hard to figure out what "Pop" even resembles anymore (plurality of styles, and all that shite), it seems useless to use the term as anything other than a modifier for some subset: Pop Country, Pop Rock, Pop Punk, et al. These are by no means any more rigid and clear in meaning, but I think they are more practical.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:16 pm to Ooh Wee Ooh
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I guess this makes Phish the kings of modern day pop music.
Good call. Their endless commercial success is clear.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:18 pm to Baloo
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But it is aiming for mass consumption.
Things tend to become muddled when you start trying to grasp intentions. Consumption of music does not necessarily entail that accessibility is its primary virtue, or what it was made to achieve.
If I grow up listening to certain popular billboard styles, and recreate that music, it could be because I am passionate about it and want to replicate the same sound, or it could be because I recognize the marketable formula.
The truth would be difficult for you to pinpoint, at least at a distant guess.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:20 pm to TreyAnastasio
and they are popular
Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:22 pm to Ooh Wee Ooh
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and they are popular
Not really
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