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re: Black Keys... Pop?

Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by Ooh Wee Ooh
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:24 pm to
then why don't they play small venues anymore
Posted by Ooh Wee Ooh
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:25 pm to
i am a huge phish fan btw but this isn't the 90s anymore
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:26 pm to
They have a select dedicated fanbase.

They are in no way pop music. They dont get played on the radio, sell mass amounts of albums, or make 3 minute songs.

They are a jamband.

quote:

i am a huge phish fan btw but this isn't the 90s anymore


I have no idea how this is germane to our discussion.
This post was edited on 1/30/13 at 4:28 pm
Posted by Ooh Wee Ooh
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:32 pm to
i dont want to get into a pissing match on the music board i was just stating that this isn't the 90s.. they sell out huge venues / arenas now and i hear them on xm radio all the time. phish is popular.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:34 pm to
You hear them on an xm station that is dedicated to playing jam music. I hear Vivaldi on XM all the time too.
Posted by Ooh Wee Ooh
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:37 pm to
Point is, they wouldn't be selling out MSG if their music wasn't popular. According to you, popular music = pop music.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:39 pm to
They're not popular though. Like I said, they have a select group of extremely dedicated fans. If they were popular their albums would chart and their music would be played on the radio.
Posted by Ooh Wee Ooh
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:51 pm to
I figured Phish was more "popular" than The Black Keys, but I get what you're saying. I can breathe easier knowing one of my favorite bands of all time is not a pop band.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:56 pm to
Its not a negative term. Thats why I dont understand why Doc got so upset that someone would label the Black Keys pop music.
This post was edited on 1/30/13 at 4:57 pm
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

According to you, popular music = pop music.


Yes. This is the standard definition since the '50s.

Lots of uninformed wanna be elitists in here.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 5:04 pm to
Tell your hipster douche friends that you don't care about genre's and labels and don't let that determine whether you like a band or not.
Posted by Ooh Wee Ooh
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

Lots of uninformed wanna be elitists in here
what happened to positive vibes mon i never was trying to come off as an elitist.
Posted by shuke33
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 5:15 pm to
So Alice In Chains is labeled "Grunge" but they're really "Heavy Metal".
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

Yes. This is the standard definition since the '50s.

Lots of uninformed wanna be elitists in here.


You are so obtuse it's embarrassing

Mon
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 5:30 pm to
Pop rock
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 5:50 pm to
quote:


You are so obtuse it's embarrassing

Mon


Contrary to your beliefs, you are not the end all be all when it comes to music.

eta: Maybe when it comes to the Varsity, but you can have that
This post was edited on 1/30/13 at 5:52 pm
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 6:09 pm to
So if any band is "popular", its "pop music"

Oh teach me your ways oh wise one
Posted by shuke33
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 6:27 pm to
If Tame Impala is popular they ain't pop music
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 6:28 pm to
Simon Frith hits the nail on the head:

quote:

According to Simon Frith pop music is produced "as a matter of enterprise not art", is "designed to appeal to everyone" and "doesn't come from any particular place or mark off any particular taste". It is "not driven by any significant ambition except profit and commercial reward ... and, in musical terms, it is essentially conservative". It is, "provided from on high (by record companies, radio programmers and concert promoters) rather than being made from below ... Pop is not a do-it-yourself music but is professionally produced and packaged"


Spot fricking on

Not like I expect souljah to understand
Posted by Marciano1
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 6:42 pm to
The Black Keys USED to be blues rock back when they released Big Come Up, Thickfreakness, Magic Potion, etc.

However, Brothers and El Camino were full of pop elements and hardly had any blues in it.

I'd definitely say they're more pop rock than blues rock as of Jan 2013
This post was edited on 1/30/13 at 6:43 pm
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