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re: Am I the only one still listening to Glam metal music?
Posted on 5/6/21 at 4:19 pm to Saintsisit
Posted on 5/6/21 at 4:19 pm to Saintsisit
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Wrong. High 'N' Dry and Pyromania are great albums. Not sure why the band keeps coming up in a Glam Metal thread though.
Well, they were the youngest of the NWOBHM bands and that scene along with a little dash of Sabbath, Zeppelin and Van Halen was all the main inspiration for thousands of kids with spandex and hairspray to start showing up for gigs at the Whiskey and other Sunset strip places. Plus, like all of us, they got older.
Their peak period overlapped the Hair Metal era as well and also coincided with the rise of MTV. That's why.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 4:30 pm to Palomitz
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I just checked it out on eBay for a smaller price.
529 pages though. Is it an entertaining read?
Just by reading the chapters names, it sounds wild.
Yeah, but be warned the format is that of the “oral history” which I know doesn’t appeal to everyone. That aside it’s a great read if you’re a fan of the music. Highlights for me were the Dokken stories, the absolute disdain George and Don had for each other and also some really funny studio hijinks. Kip Winger is still bitter all these years later claiming that Metallica and Beavis & Butthead killed his career. The stuff about the costume designing was interesting too. Michael Jackson was enamored with a jacket Jani Lane wore and wanted one just like it. And other seemingly mundane topics like the “flyer wars” on the Sunset Strip were pretty fascinating.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 4:41 pm to pheroy
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Def Leppard had some really good material early especially for their age.
Yeah, the skeptical lot who think of the boys from Sheffield almost exclusively in association with the Hysteria album and, particularly, the single Sugar, should definitely go back and listen to On Through the Night and High 'n' Dry - I think the older guys turned 20 while recording OTTN, and they were all under 22 when when High 'n' Dry was released. In fact, I think only the guitarists Willis and Clark had actually turned 21 when High 'n' Dry came out, and drummer Rick Allen, having just finished his second album with the band, was still 17 years old.
Think about that - the drummer for the first 2 Def Leppard albums wasn't of legal drinking age in the United States and would have needed parental permission to marry or join the military (if American).
Posted on 5/6/21 at 4:59 pm to TommyCheeseballs
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Yeah, but be warned the format is that of the “oral history” which I know doesn’t appeal to everyone. That aside it’s a great read if you’re a fan of the music. Highlights for me were the Dokken stories, the absolute disdain George and Don had for each other and also some really funny studio hijinks. Kip Winger is still bitter all these years later claiming that Metallica and Beavis & Butthead killed his career. The stuff about the costume designing was interesting too. Michael Jackson was enamored with a jacket Jani Lane wore and wanted one just like it. And other seemingly mundane topics like the “flyer wars” on the Sunset Strip were pretty fascinating.
I ordered the book from Amazon today because of your suggestion. Also ordered Liquid Tension Experiment 3 and the new Smith/Kotzen album.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 5:07 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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I ordered the book from Amazon today because of your suggestion
Me too, looking forward to it. If you guys are entertained by reading interesting musical topics and/or artists bio's, I recommend Elton John's book "Me". I could not put that book down.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 5:16 pm to Palomitz
Cool, yeah if you like reading and are a fan of the genre I’m sure you’ll both love it. Entertaining and a lot of laugh out loud stories.
I also recently read Steve Gorman’s book “Hard to Handle: The Life and Death of the Black Crowes”which was excellent even though I’m not a big fan of the band.
And if you want a big heavy coffee table book with a bunch of great 80s hard rock pictures pick this up too- “The Decade That Rocked: The Photography of Mark “Weissguy” Weiss”
I also recently read Steve Gorman’s book “Hard to Handle: The Life and Death of the Black Crowes”which was excellent even though I’m not a big fan of the band.
And if you want a big heavy coffee table book with a bunch of great 80s hard rock pictures pick this up too- “The Decade That Rocked: The Photography of Mark “Weissguy” Weiss”
Posted on 5/6/21 at 5:34 pm to TommyCheeseballs
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I also recently read Steve Gorman’s book “Hard to Handle: The Life and Death of the Black Crowes”which was excellent even though I’m not a big fan of the band.
Yeah, Steve's book pretty much precludes any "real" BC reunion.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 6:37 pm to Ace Midnight
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Yeah, Steve's book pretty much precludes any "real" BC reunion.
Yeah he was really good about reminding us that the Robinsons are a couple of greedy MFers lest we forgot from two pages ago.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:01 pm to TommyCheeseballs
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And if you want a big heavy coffee table book with a bunch of great 80s hard rock pictures pick this up too- “The Decade That Rocked: The Photography of Mark “Weissguy” Weiss”
I like this. You're making me spend money with your "too hard to pass" recommendations.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:17 pm to Marciano1
Great guitarists, incredible singers, mediocre drummers, atrocious production value
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:58 pm to Palomitz
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I like this. You're making me spend money with your "too hard to pass" recommendations.
Not sure if it's between printings or something but I'm only seeing it available from a third party at the moment. I just got it last month directly from Amazon for $35. You might want to check around or wait for a better price.
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I have a large collection of stuff that can be broadly termed "glam" or hair metal. I lean more toward stuff that was less poppy and wussified. Favorites include:
Badlands
Love/Hate
Spread Eagle
Four Horsemen
Lillian Axe
Dangerous Toys
Skid Row
Junkyard
Every Mother's Nightmare
L.A. Guns
Like any other genre there's good and bad, unfortunately it seems that this type of music routinely holds up the worst examples as best and most popular. But good taste was never the strong suit I guess.
Totally agree. There are some forgotten gems if you go deeper than the most popular stuff. The ones you mentioned plus Johnny Crash, Little Caesar, Smashed Gladys, Sea Hags, Jetboy, Cats in Boots, Vain and Dirty Looks just to name a few.
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I had to refresh myself to reconfirm my memories on why I quickly disliked that song back in the day. I'll give it 2 positives. Anthemic chorus. And, looking at QR led me to see that James Durbin had been with them recently but left to do a solo record, which I like so far.
But the riff is really boring, there's not much musically or lyrically and I would put it up as an example of their lack of songwriting talent that led the record company to make them cut a couple of Slade remakes. (I admit the story of doing COFTN and them trying hard to tank it but having a hit, is pretty funny.)
Which bring us to Quiet Riot, speaking of "worst examples as best and most popular." IMO "Metal Health" is far and away at the bottom of the barrel as far as the main albums to come out of the first wave of LA glam. "Shout at the Devil", the Ratt EP then "Out of the Cellar", "Tooth and Nail", W.A.S.P. s/t, even "Sign in Please" by Autograph is probably better. I've got fond memories of more than one moment in time having to do with "Metal Health", my buddy following me around on my paper route carrying his boombox and playing the cassette, a 7th grade dance where the evening's music consisted of the DJ playing that album all the way through twice, going to the grocery store to buy the newest copy of Circus or Hit Parader. It was the first one to go to number one and it paved the way for all the rest of the bands that hit it big for better or worse but it's a pretty bad record. I think "Thunderbird" is the worst power ballad ever made. And "Let's Get Crazy"- "want to kiss your lips, not the ones on your face Your innocent jive is really out of place In need of assistance A dog for my bone Ain't no way tonight I go home alone." Yeesh. Plus the fact that they imploded five minutes later and Dubrow burned all his bridges in record time make Quiet Riot a pretty strange case.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 8:16 am to Palomitz
While I have no love for Hair Bands like Poison I like the harder bands lumped in with them like Ratt, Twisted Sister and Skid Row. That being said there is some awesome metal out their now days. Problem is it has no where near the exposure of the old days. Note while I am not a fan of growls some of them can really grow on you if you give them a chance (Jinjer). A whole song of Death or Black metal vocals though and I tap out. There are also loads of bands with clean vocals in metal that are really tight.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 10:05 am to Tackle74
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Twisted Sister
They rocked, even though I always saw them as a "teenage band". Used to be a fan of them too.
A little story about them. Back in '84 or '85 (I was 12), I loved their videos on Mtv. One day I was at a K-mart with my aunt and saw their "Stay Hungry" cassette. I wanted it so bad. So I asked my auntie if she could buy it for me. I'll never forget when I showed her the "Stay Hungry" album cover lol. In her mind she was like WTF is this (Dee Snider with a bare bone pretending to eat it and his eyes peeled wide open). Her expression like "you like this?". I told her it was all a costume and the music was great. She told me that's fine, if you like it, let's take it. She made my day, she was such a sweet heart, RIP. She died of cancer in her late 50's. Great people are never forgotten.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 10:15 am to Palomitz
Listening to Enuff Z'nuff as I refret a Les Paul today. Horridly underrated band, I think they would have got a lot more respect straight outta the gate had it not been for the cheesy stereotypical vid for "New Thing" way back when. Great songwriting. Love Vie's voice and Frigo's guitar work. I recommend the S/T debut and "Animals With Human Intelligence." Stellar records.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:47 am to Palomitz
As for me ,I used some 3rd-party tool (Tunelf Spotibeat Music Converter) to download and convert Spotify music to other format and then burn the convered spotify music to CD for listening.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 6:32 am to TommyCheeseballs
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Johnny Crash
Saw them with Tesla and Mötley Crüe in 1990.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 8:28 am to Saint Alfonzo
Great album, heavily inspired by AC/DC, like Rhino Bucket and Dirty Looks
Johnny Crash- “Neighbourhood Threat”
Johnny Crash- “Neighbourhood Threat”
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:17 am to JackieTreehorn
quote:The problem with 38 and 39 on Sirius is they play WAY too much of the mediocre shite that I don't remember as being all that popular in the first place (Accept, Y and T, etc.)
Hair Nation on SiriusXM is my go to channel.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:54 am to Big Scrub TX
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Guns N' Roses is my favorite band ... I would not put them fully in the hair metal category ... and saw the Not in This Lifetime tour about 10 times.
Well you didn't see the real Guns N' Roses then. Not trying to be an arse but there were a lot of replacements up there. Still better than most though.
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