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re: Your New Helen of Troy: Pic Released
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:46 pm to Hou_Lawyer
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:46 pm to Hou_Lawyer
So beautiful they even invented a twin for the movie so we could enjoy two of them.
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:47 pm to Roaad
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So? Probably still a fictional character.
You could describe King Arthur, even from the source material.
Still doesn't mean he existed.
But the point of her character is primarily her physical traits. Defines her and drives parts of the story.
Take the hump off Quasimoto's back, make Richard III a fit athlete, give Ahab two legs and no scars, etc.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:52 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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he'd rather acting over looks for a movie. a novel concept i know.
She’s neither so try again
Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:58 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Helen is a very minor character in The Odyssey. I don't like the casting either but she is going to be a minor part in the movie.
The actress is playing multiple roles. They’re expanding her exposure by creating a twin for Helen.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 4:06 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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Byron Bojangles III
the main white liberal casting director for The Odyssey, Rings of Power, and Snow White.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 4:56 pm to Hou_Lawyer
Can you imagine the outrage if Sidney Sweeney played an African princess in Wakanda. 
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:12 pm to CatfishJohn
quote:Only her beauty
But the point of her character is primarily her physical traits.
Her color is irrelevant to the story
If I am wrong, which I always allow for, I would love to hear how.
Homer didn't find her important enough to describe in any detail, or even to provide her a personality, agency, or motivations.
We just know she is apparently hot enough to go to war over
We are given what? 3 vague characteristics (one of which we aren't sure what it meant, and was probably some kind of slang), and that is it
But if you alter any of those characteristics, it does nothing to change the story.
Mad about Helen for not being from the right place. . .but far less so for Matt Damon and the rest.
Damon is as Greek as Lupita, I'd wager.
Now there is another famously beautiful woman that is a MAJOR character in The Odyssey.
Penelope, played by Anne Hathaway, also without a drop of Greek blood
In fact, here is the ONLY ACTOR WITH GREEK ANCESTRY in the movie.
Plays an unnamed supporting role
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:03 pm to Cosmo
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the face that turned around 1000 ships
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:10 pm to CatfishJohn
quote:I was flipping channels in the '90s and landed on that Hercules show w/Sorbo. Some guy told him: "Oh come off it Hercules!"
Tom Holland saying "dad" in the trailer is what made me decide to not see this in theater
"Hercules: the show about a leatherclad muscleman who travels the Greek islands with a male companion" - Bill Maher
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:12 pm to sgallo3
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who writes you guys material?
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:50 pm to Hou_Lawyer
More like Helen of Troy, Alabama...
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:20 am to Hou_Lawyer
Helen of Troy, Alabama.
But Alabama is funnier
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:15 pm to Cosmo
The face that turned away 1000 ships
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:19 pm to Maytheporkbewithyou
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Helen of Troy, Alabama.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:26 pm to Roaad
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Only her beauty
The central catalyst for the entire story. Selects universally acknowledged least attractive demographic on planet earth... hmmmm
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:31 pm to Roaad
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It is probably going to be really good, though
Nah.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:32 pm to Roaad
Its tragic that its not Greek heavy. I love mythology so I'll watch, just not in the theater.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:40 pm to Roaad
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Mad about Helen for not being from the right place. . .but far less so for Matt Damon and the rest.
I think it’s disingenuous to compare casting a Kenyan as a Greek character with fair hair, fair skin, and white arms (said by Homer, I believe) and compared to Artemis - and a white dude as a Greek. And one is a character just defined by physical traits.
I, too, wish more actual Greek actors were cast and don’t like many of these casting choices, including Damon.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:45 pm to Roaad
quote:Incorrect. She's described as being 'fair skinned/white armed.' This is also an indication of her social status. Casting a midnight black chick is in no way an interpretation of this.
Homer didn't find her important enough to describe in any detail,
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:45 pm to rocksteady
quote:Jesus. . .
Selects universally acknowledged least attractive demographic on planet earth
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:57 pm to CatfishJohn
quote:sure, but are they important to the character? Show your work.
fair hair, fair skin
quote:white of arm is the phrase generally assumed to be a sort of slang that has been lost. Because it makes no sense in context.
white arms
quote:in beauty, not appearance.
and compared to Artemis
Her being black is bad, because it is different from Homer's description, right?
Shall we look at Homer's description of Ulysses:
Greek
possessing massive thighs, curly hyacinth-like hair, and a deep, sun-bronzed complexion.
His skin is darkened by a "bronze tan" from a lifetime of exposure to the sun and sea. When at ease, his features present a pleasant, cheerful, and friendly manner. He is also described as having bushy, curly hair that hangs down thick over his forehead
Sounds exactly like Matt Damon.
I am applying consistency. You guys just want to fuss because black.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:58 pm to PuertoRicanBlaze
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More like Helen of Troy, Alabama...
More like Helen of Troy, Back of Town in Opelousas.
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