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re: Yellowstone season 4, season long thread.

Posted on 11/15/21 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7311 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 4:20 pm to
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awful female characters that women love because "escapism"


Add the same number of a-hole men characters who think they can do anything they want or are ridiculously bad asses like Rip and Kayce. Escapism as well. Just a different kind.

Either way, most people on here aren't complaining about it's lack of "reality". It's a TV show. They need to make it appeal to both sexes if they really want a big hit! As TV shows go, this is a really good one!
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 5:18 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61432 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 4:24 pm to
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They pretty much trapped him there and then were going to kill him when he tried to leave. I was on his side at first, but now he sucks in every way. He should have just actually left.

if Bingham wasn’t such a terrible actor it would help
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111402 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 4:47 pm to
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yeah we know, there are sixty plus years of shitty soap operas with awful female characters that women love because "escapism"

Why do you think dudes who wouldn’t know their arse from a hole in the ground when it comes to true country living loves a show about cowboys and ranching? Or cheering their asses off for 18-22 year olds playing a freaking game?

It’s all “escapism”
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 4:48 pm
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
29336 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 4:50 pm to
I thought the Texas ranch with Jimmy was supposed to be a spin-off?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61432 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 5:33 pm to
God I pray not. Every Texas character but Jimmy is insufferable.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 5:36 pm to
Just dropping in to express me hate for Monica. Can’t even stand to see her on the tv.

She makes everything she’s involved in worse and she’s responsible for the majority of the conflict in Kacey’s life. Wish she had been killed off in the opener which would fit the rest of the show perfectly. All of the lead characters lost their mother/wife save for Rip & Beth for each other. Kacey could raise Tate on the ranch like he wants and quit allowing Monica to screw him up. John fixed his nightmares. Kacey fixed his crippling anxiety about the attack. Both were made worse by Uber helicopter mom Monica.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
84533 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 5:37 pm to
We are midway through Season 2.

Please tell me they explain why Beth is such a thundercùnt towards Jaime.
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 5:38 pm
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 5:39 pm to
They do. You’ll find Jamie is a true POS. I want to say towards the end of season 2.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
84533 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 5:44 pm to
Good.

I'm getting tired of the constant berating with no context.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
13234 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 5:45 pm to
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I love Beth


Yeah! Girl Power!

The problem with Beth is the same I continue to have with strong female leads. The writers are forced to write them as "bullet proof".

You can't touch them otherwise its sexist. So who is able to put Beth in her place? Another strong female lead. There isn't one. So she runs around with no comeuppance.

Also, my entire issue with the "hysterectomy" storyline is no qualified doctor, at least not one receiving federal funds on a reservation, is performing that surgery on a healthy female minor without parental consent. Reservation or not...thats not believable. Its an ethical thing.

She is so untouchable they let her survive a bomb that blew out windows.

I don't dislike her because she serves as a foil for too many characters, but she spoils every plot line because she will come out on top.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111402 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:08 pm to
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You’ll find Jamie is a true POS. I want to say towards the end of season 2.

Yeh I just disagree. I think besides Kaycee he is the “least POS” of all the duttons
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:49 pm to
Jamie is a selfish coward that stole his sisters potential happiness. Argument can be had on how he got that way and how much is him vs his upbringing.

That said, I’m 50/50 on whether Jamie will save the day or turn out it have armed Johns enemies (trying to be respectful of spoilers as best I can).

Kayce, I agree is the least POS and I very much like his character. It’s why I hate Monica so much.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111402 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:52 pm to
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Jamie is a selfish coward that stole his sisters potential happiness. Argument can be had on how he got that way and how m
Jamie and Beth were both scared kids. Neither is worse than the other for that entire situation

Beth was selfish and didn’t want the baby, and Jamie was likely scared his dad would kill Rip if he found out (remember, Jamie was the only one that didn’t treat Rip like shite back then)

Then throughout his entire life, he did everything for John Dutton and got treated like a step child the entire time and he never actually knew why
Posted by RonLaFlamme
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
1858 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:56 pm to
Bit of a reach. What impact does Lee have on Kayce, Rip, Jamie, Beth? The only one who’s mentioned him since the funeral is John.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61432 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:02 pm to
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Jamie and Beth were both scared kids. Neither is worse than the other for that entire situation

Beth was selfish and didn’t want the baby, and Jamie was likely scared his dad would kill Rip if he found out (remember, Jamie was the only one that didn’t treat Rip like shite back then)

Then throughout his entire life, he did everything for John Dutton and got treated like a step child the entire time and he never actually knew why
all of this.

I think he is the best most complex character on the show

Jamie
Rip
Kasey
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:07 pm to
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Beth was selfish and didn’t want the baby, and Jamie was likely scared his dad would kill Rip if he found out (remember, Jamie was the only one that didn’t treat Rip like shite back then)


Could have been scared for the ramifications to the family name, and by extension his own future. Jamie seems to have been the most ambitious of the bunch, particularly politically. While not exactly his choice, he knew the potential for himself becoming a lawyer with the Dutton name and influence. Scared or not, takes a pos to make that choice and not say a word.

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Then throughout his entire life, he did everything for John Dutton and got treated like a step child the entire time and he never actually knew why


John seems to have really only treated one child well, but was hard on even him. Obviously Rip was treated the worst on the whole. Beth and Jamie were treated worse mentally. Beth used it to become a hardened and ruthless businesswoman. Jamie remained cowardly and weak in almost every capacity besides defending his family in legal matters.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17601 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:27 pm to
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thats not believable


Nothing in this show is believable. Why complain about the abortion?
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
21610 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:16 pm to
Man the first two episodes were great without a Monica bitch fest. My most hated character in the show by far, wish she had been killed by that militia dude in Ep. 1
Posted by ellunchboxo
G-Town
Member since Feb 2009
19477 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:23 pm to
Mo’s wallet has Bad Mother fricker written on it.

Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22651 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:29 pm to
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Wonder if we get to see Jimmy down in Tx. Hope so. Whole new group of guys to shite on him.


I kind of like the "Jimmy redemption" aspect of the show. However, if everyone of his peers keep shitting on him, he will either go back to drugs, or grab a scatter gun and take out about 5 mother frickers and then himself.

That's the only way I see Jimmy's arc playing out right now.
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