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re: Wonder Woman 1984 Official Thread **SPOILERS**

Posted on 12/30/20 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by auburn32
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Posted on 12/30/20 at 3:38 pm to
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I mean it was much worse than deleting him, she screwed that unconsenting meat suit.



I just finished it (had to fast forward through a lot of it), and I couldn't stop thinking about this. That storyline was not what I was expecting out of Hollywood.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/30/20 at 3:46 pm to
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That storyline was not what I was expecting out of Hollywood.


I'm wondering why no one picked up on it. It still bothers me. WW would never rape a dude, much less a guy that is basically incapable of consenting. It's nuts.
Posted by Bottom9
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Posted on 12/30/20 at 4:24 pm to
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Have hated every DC property since Man of Steel except for the first Wonder Woman.


So you hated Shazam?

Yet you enjoyed this movie?
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 12/30/20 at 5:20 pm to
Ok I take that back. I loved Shazam.

Shazam was so good that I forgot it was DC for a second.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 12/30/20 at 6:10 pm to
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what if he was a spectator in his own body? Wtf


He wasn't. He blew Gal Gadot off at the end even though she was eyefricking him to death.


Like dude wtf is your problem Gal Gadot is basically hitting on you as hard as she can and you just casually walk away.
Posted by Oates Mustache
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Posted on 12/30/20 at 6:19 pm to
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He wasn't. He blew Gal Gadot off at the end even though she was eyefricking him to death.


Ahhh yeah that's right. So we're back to her raping a meat suit controlled by her dead boyfriend.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/30/20 at 8:42 pm to
This movie was a chore to get through. Gal still got it though
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 11:45 am to
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enjoyed it with no problems.


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So you enjoy meat suit rape?


I can’t suspended belief for a movie now? It’s a movie. If that’s the biggest issue in the movie, is it really that big of a deal?

This argument is like the protruding vertebrae in TDKR. I’m not a doctor so I don’t know if that’s the right way to fix the problem, but I don’t need to be explained to me on a message board how scientifically inaccurate it is and how it takes away from it being a good movie. Granted, there are more problems in that movie, but a lot of people blew up about that because of that reason alone.

A possessed body isn’t that far fetched.

I’m not a pilot either, but I can suspend belief that a pilot in the 1910s can also fly a plane in the 1980s.

I’m not a super hero with a Lasso of Truth, but I can suspend belief that WW can swing from lightening bolt to lightening bolt.

When she’s swinging from that light pole and let’s go, or whatever it was, trying to save the kids during the truck chase scene, how did the lasso end up magically attached to her waste? I don’t know. I don’t care. I can assume it comes back to her similar to Thor’s hammer.

Don’t fault me for enjoying a decent movie.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 12:41 pm to
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When she’s swinging from that light pole and let’s go, or whatever it was, trying to save the kids during the truck chase scene, how did the lasso end up magically attached to her waste?

It snaps back loudly like a Craftsman tape measure.
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 5:41 pm to
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This argument is like the protruding vertebrae in TDKR. I’m not a doctor so I don’t know if that’s the right way to fix the problem, but I don’t need to be explained to me on a message board how scientifically inaccurate it is and how it takes away from it being a good movie. Granted, there are more problems in that movie, but a lot of people blew up about that because of that reason alone.


If you really want to get the Marvel fanboys, anti-Snydertards and other assorted pseudo-cinemaphiles on here riled up just mention how the bullet in Batman vs. Superman isn't that big of a plot hole.
Posted by Philzilla2k
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 6:02 pm to
What bullet?
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:19 pm to
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If you really want to get the Marvel fanboys, anti-Snydertards and other assorted pseudo-cinemaphiles on here riled up just mention how the bullet in Batman vs. Superman isn't that big of a plot hole.


I'll take that bait :)

I think BvS is one of the absolute worst blockbusters released this century. The idea that anyone calling this WW movie overlong and silly, while also enjoying BvS, absolutely blows my mind.

This movie took shots on a unique tone and fell way short. I can't stand that it was 150 minutes, but the end product was a harmless bad. It was at least visually coherent, and visible in general until the climactic fight. BvS was mind-numbing in how grim and serious it was, and its visual palette made everything look underlit and shitty. It's 150 minutes are absolutely unbearable to me.

Both end up incompetent in terms of story, but at least Jenkins made 1984 visible.


Posted by AURaptor
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Posted on 1/1/21 at 8:45 am to
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What bullet?



I'm guessing the special bullet found by Lois at the site of the terrorist attack in Africa.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/1/21 at 8:59 am to
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but the end product was a harmless bad


That's one of the biggest problems with this shite show movie. ZERO CONSEQUENCES.

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and visible in general until the climactic fight.


BvS at least gave you a couple of really good fight scenes. WW84 was awful dogshit fight scenes all the way through because Patty Jenkins kept nerfing her powers to fit the scene, I mean ffs wind? Really? That's gonna stop her?

BvS was awful. WW84 somehow managed to be worse.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 1/1/21 at 9:03 am to
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If you really want to get the Marvel fanboys, anti-Snydertards and other assorted pseudo-cinemaphiles on here riled up just mention how the bullet in Batman vs. Superman isn't that big of a plot hole.



Who gets in a tizzy over that?? There are literally dozens of other problems in BvS. The bullet is a fairly standard convenient device that most comic books/films have.
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/1/21 at 9:07 am to
Massive continuity problems with WW1984 and moving forwards. Her inconsistent powers - she had a shield in World War 1, then again in present day, but used her magic lasso , spun really fast, to deflect bullets in the 80's ?? - her 'hiding away for 100 years '... she showed up in a crowded MALL , for everyone to see.

( And sorry, knocking out a security camera doesn't erase what has already been captured. )
Posted by Jay Are
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/1/21 at 9:28 am to
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BvS at least gave you a couple of really good fight scenes. 


I don't think they were good fight scenes. Snyder uses a lack of lighting to hide cgi flaws, making those scenes barely visible. At most, they have an idea of good, but I wouldn't give them that much credit either.

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That's one of the biggest problems with this shite show movie. ZERO CONSEQUENCES


As in zero consequences for the dceu? I don't understand that as a criticism. DC was smart to make films that feel outside of the that shite show.

As in zero consequences within the movie? Having misspent is first hour, 1984 ends rather quickly. But the bad things being reset to a status quo is how most movies end. Protagonist learns a lesson, helps other people learn lessons, everything is fine. Pretty standard, if unimaginative, template.

Phrases like "zero consequences" reek of internet echo-chambered nonsense. The first WW also had zero consequences, as we knew the hero makes it to the present. Super hero films, in general, have zero consequences, as we know the heroes will win (F off with any mentions of Infinity War, the second half of that miniseries has them winning). Plenty of reasons to criticize this movie without making up stuff.

Obviously, this is just my opinion, and that opinion is coming from someone not emotionally invested in the dceu. Love comics and watch most superhero movies, but I've come to expect bottom half of the barrel from this franchise. Not trying to convince you or anyone to like 1984. I think the level of hatred being thrown at it is comical. I think it's an easy internet fanboy pile-on. It's bad, but this level of criticism indicates a degree of incompetence that I don't believe is present in the movie. And some of the people hating this are the same people excited that Snyder is polishing a 2 hour turd into a 4 hour turd, which is hilarious. Will we all still hate plot holes and bloat this much in March?
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/1/21 at 9:56 am to
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Phrases like "zero consequences" reek of internet echo-chambered nonsense.


In what world does the main villan get to just walk away with his fricking kid after almost taking over the entire fricking world? That was never explained at all. But hey he learned his lesson so it's harmless I guess?

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The first WW also had zero consequences,


No it fricking did not. Steve Trevor died, it was poignant, it made sense, we all felt it. Bringing him back as a plot device was cheap and stupid in 1984.

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Super hero films, in general, have zero consequences, as we know the heroes will win (F off with any mentions of Infinity War, the second half of that miniseries has them winning


Are you fricking retarded or something? Black Widow and fricking Iron Man died.

I'm out. I'm done. You are clueless.
Posted by stateofplay
Member since Sep 2018
1504 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 11:01 am to
Im still trying to understand the purpose of bringing Trevor back and the logic of saying WW hid from mankind for 100 years but have her show up in 84.

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