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re: Wokeness in movies/TV. How does it affect your viewing experience?

Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by Jay Are
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:44 pm to
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Things like 12 Years A Slave,


A negative depiction of slavery is woke?
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:45 pm to
Darth Vader has double his screen time and is the villian. He’s not going to have the screen time as the hero’s.

Othe Emperor is a secondary character. He’s not even the main antagonist till the last part of the third movie.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:45 pm to
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Now go count the non brown people in Bollywood movies and get back to us.
The US is the only media group that gives a hot shite about representation and "inclusion".
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:49 pm to
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Darth Vader has double his screen time and is the villian. He’s not going to have the screen time as the hero’s.

Othe Emperor is a secondary character. He’s not even the main antagonist till the last part of the third movie.

Now you are contradicting yourself.

Is screentime important to how major a character is, or isn't it?

I show that Vader had little screentime, and you want to add caveats.

Seems like you are obfuscating.

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He’s not even the main antagonist till the last part of the third movie.
Then you don't know Star Wars.

The Emperor is revealed to be the main villain early in the first movie.
This post was edited on 9/4/22 at 12:54 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:53 pm to
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Now you are contradicting yourself.


No I’m not. Darth has double his screen time.

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Is screentime important to how major a character is, or isn't it?


It is which is why Darth is more
Important.

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I show that Vader had little screentime, and you want to add caveats.


You showed he has twice as much screen time.

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Seems like you are obfuscating.


Then say Landonis as important as Han Luke Leia and Darth Vader. Say that. Don’t say “he’s a major character”

Says he’s equally as important as Luke and Han.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:53 pm to
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For fricks sake the majority of the country that makes all these movies is white.


Sammy’s people are working hard to change that. You’re not supposed to notice. If you notice, they’ll tell you you’re wrong. If they can no longer deny that it’s happening, they’ll tell you that it’s a good thing.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:54 pm to
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For fricks sake the majority of the country that makes all these movies is white. Of course the make up of the stories is going to be white characters.


He’s complaining about human women in space.

Is our country not roughly 50% human women?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:58 pm to
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It is which is why Darth is more
So R2-D2 is more important than Darth Vader?

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Says he’s equally as important as Luke


Less important than the main Protagonist, sure.

Only "secondary" if everyone who isn't Luke is secondary.

You are big mad, and I am digging it. :nb4noImnot:
This post was edited on 9/4/22 at 1:04 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:59 pm to
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Less important than the main Protagonist, sure. Only "secondary" if everyone who isn't Luke is secondary.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:59 pm to
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Is our country not roughly 50% human women?

In combat roles, fighter pilots, heads of state?
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:59 pm to
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A negative depiction of slavery is woke?

What part of "I avoid black trauma films" did you not understand?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:59 pm to
I don't watch them.

I cancel my streaming subscriptions.

That's how I deal with it.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 1:01 pm to
Now you contend that if the series lead of a show is white male, it is a failure of representation?

Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
78332 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 1:01 pm to
You forgot the part when you cry about them online
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
42955 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 1:03 pm to
Yes Sammy, I trash them online and point out their absurd canon destroying nonsense for flaccid minded normies like you.


Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 1:18 pm to
As far as bad-arse females characters go, I'm not bothered watching a slight 120 lb female kick the crap out of five pumped up males but in the larger scheme of things I think it has become too pervasive. I think females are becoming more and more aggressive irl and movies play some part in that. This is a net negative for society. My wife and I talked about this last night, how males are being portrayed as timid, cowardly, and stupid while females are intelligent, strong, and courageous.

Heck one WOT episode had a female in active labor go Hidden Tiger, Crouching Dragon on at least 7 huge male warriors. Fantasy is just that - fantasy. It can be fun to watch. But the goal appears to be the demasculation of males. It's no longer fantasy, it's an intentional objective.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3182 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 1:28 pm to
It annoys me when the break their own universe to fit in political narratives that apply to our universe.

For some reason a few things from Season 1 of Designated Survivor are popping up in my head.

1. In the re-election of congress, an absolute ton of Independents were elected (100+). This is immediately ignored and the rest of the series is typical D vs. R commentary.

2. The first piece of new legislation passed is a gun control bill. Their world has just seen all three branches of federal government decimated by a then unknown terrorist organization, and a subsequent assassination attempt. Passing a gun control act in that world would be like passing a law abolishing airport security pm 9/12/2001.

In that world even progressives are lining up to lock and load.
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 1:31 pm to
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What part of "I avoid black trauma films" did you not understand?


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The woke stuff I avoid almost entirely are the films/shows centered around black trauma


Sorry, I asked a question about 12 years a slave being woke. Your comment did say it was about woke movies centered around black trauma, not just black trauma.

I guess I was trying to clarify how stupid something was, but then you went and clarified that you're an a-hole (who wasn't aware of his own words).
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
28417 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 1:37 pm to
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Sorry, I asked a question about 12 years a slave being woke. Your comment did say it was about woke movies centered around black trauma, not just black trauma.

I guess I was trying to clarify how stupid something was, but then you went and clarified that you're an a-hole (who wasn't aware of his own words).

No reason for name-calling, ya prick. And what was stupid about my statement? Am I required to watch movies made by the woke, and starring the woke? What do you find enjoyable about black trauma films? We get it, slavery is bad. No reason to carry dead people's baggage from over a hundred and fifty years ago. The same goes for revenge porn movies like Django and Inglorious Bastards. Boring, cliched films.
This post was edited on 9/4/22 at 1:50 pm
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 2:03 pm to
If it's the focus of the entire film, I probably won't watch it in the first place.

The "one woke scene ruined the movie" excuse is usually bullshite. The casino scene didn't ruin that Star Wars sequel. Mystique saying "X-Women" didn't ruin that X-Men movie. They're already shite movies, just with woke moments.

We had "woke" moments in classic films. If they were released today we'd hear bitching and moaning about "modern woke filmmakers". I don't think that anyone walked out of or turned off Jurassic Park because of Ellie's repeated feminist jabs and eye-rolling at chauvinism.
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