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re: Wokeness in movies/TV. How does it affect your viewing experience?

Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:57 am to
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:57 am to
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did you blink an eye when Vader, the Emperor, Obi Wan, Luke, and Han Solo we’re all white male humans in the first Trilogy

shite how about 80% of the x-wing fighters.

Given society at the time, and even now, that is an accurate representation.

15% of the Major roles were held by black people (Darth Vader voice, Lando)

Women weren't fighter pilots or soldiers.

Political leaders are 50/50 Emperor/Leia (a marked overrepresentation of women)
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Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:59 am to
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Lando is a secondary character
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:00 pm to
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Given society at the time


Our society.

Idk if you noticed this about Star Wars, but if happens a long long time ago in a galaxy far away.

I’m not criticizing Star Wars I am Criticizing turning around and complaining about too many humans because they’re female.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:04 pm to
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Our society.

Idk if you noticed this about Star Wars, but if happens a long long time ago in a galaxy far away.

I’m not criticizing Star Wars I am Criticizing turning around and complaining about too many humans because they’re female.


Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:04 pm to
He has 17 minutes of screen time and isn’t in the first movie.

You want to say he’s a main character with Luke Leia and Han?

Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:05 pm to
Bitch frick off
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:06 pm to
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Bitch frick off



Did I touch a nerve there, Binger?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:07 pm to
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Our society.

Stories reflect the society that made them.

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Idk if you noticed this about Star Wars, but if happens a long long time ago in a galaxy far away.


Idk if you noticed this, but Star Wars was made in America (filmed all over, but made in the US), by an American production company, written and directed by an American dude.

Reflecting your society is generally not a "statement", but a way to facilitate immersion.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:07 pm to
The woke stuff I avoid almost entirely are the films/shows centered around black trauma. Things like 12 Years A Slave, Queen And Slim, Lovecraft Country, etc. I did watch the Watchmen series on HBOMax, and it was as bad as I expected it to be.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:08 pm to
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12 Years A Slave
The book is great.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:20 pm to
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He has 17 minutes of screen time and isn’t in the first movie.

You want to say he’s a main character with Luke Leia and Han?

He is why Vader and Luke fight, Han is frozen, saves Luke.

And he, idk. . .blows up the second Death Star

Darth Vader had about 30 minutes of screentime combined

The emperor, maybe 10.

Not major characters?
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:20 pm to
Bitch, I own You.

Want to talk about striking a nerve? Remember posting this classic?

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frick you, you self loathing white supremacist count. White supremacists like you deserve have their faces kicked in. Just because you’re remorseful for your lynchings you don’t deserve forgiveness. Call me a racist to my fricking face, you evil count. I’ll destroy you you evil stupid racist mother fricker.



Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:24 pm to
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Bitch, I own You.

Want to talk about striking a nerve? Remember posting this classic?



I still stand by that, you pathetic twat.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:26 pm to
Do you two have to start your bullshite in every thread? Just frick already and spare us the details.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:27 pm to
He’s a secondary character. If you want to pretend he’s as important as Luke, Leia Han and Darth you can.

But to justify him being important you onoy described how he pushed the main characters together.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:28 pm to
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Do you two have to start your bullshite in every thread? Just frick already and spare us the details.


I didnt start shite.

Bitch has a hardon for me
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:30 pm to
If I think the material is more about politics than telling a story then why would I want to watch?

Even if I agreed with the political bias I can't think of a non documentary where political messaging improved a story.

Political ideology feels like such a sloppy stupid way to ruin three dimensional characters or storytelling.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:33 pm to
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He’s a secondary character.
Darth and the Emperor are not major characters. Gotcha.
Posted by armsdealer
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:36 pm to
For fricks sake the majority of the country that makes all these movies is white. Of course the make up of the stories is going to be white characters.

Now go count the non brown people in Bollywood movies and get back to us.
Posted by Boodis Man
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 12:43 pm to
It’s definitely going to bother me if a show is deliberately trying to be woke or send out woke messages. I’m just not having it
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