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re: Will The Marvels be the dealbreaker for the MCU?

Posted on 7/12/23 at 1:50 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66706 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 1:50 pm to
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Because they can't figure out how to tentpole their new characters. Strange and Ant-Man were never going to get it done. Spider-Man had a chance, but if Holland is slowing his acting down that's out.


Yeah and I am sure they’re always a little reluctant to plan too much on Spiderman given he’s basically a loan from Sony.

they NEEED to land FF and XMen. there really is no other way forward.

FF is hard to do. Reed is basically a super genius but then oh yeah he also stretchy.

XMen’s issue is Fox milled them for all they’re worth and they probably needed the breather.
This post was edited on 7/12/23 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Keep Stirring
Member since Sep 2016
2607 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 1:59 pm to
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When else would they market movies that come out in 1-3 months? What a silly statement.



I said the trailer for the Marvels came out 3 months ago... he replied I meant Applebees or whatever.

It's 4 months out from being released, promotional marketing by restaurants, I'm assuming other commercial products/tie-in's - those usually start a month or so out give or take, I'll bite at a little over - ie the Progressive stuff with Barbie. Name one movie being coming out in November being advertised by commericial tie-ins, please since I'm so silly

Then he totally mind fricked me, and after saying there was no marketing (I'd consider trailers marketing in a capacity) and contradicted himself saying MCU trailers come out months ahead, but the Marvels trailer has been out for 3 months.

frick IT YOU'RE RIGHT, SILLY STATEMENT
This post was edited on 7/12/23 at 2:05 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65146 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 2:03 pm to
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they still have Xmen and F4 coming up


So what? There have already been 10 films in the X-Men franchise (if you don't count the Deadpool and New Mutants movies - that would make 13) and three Fantastic Four movies (two of them connected, another a reboot).

These properties are all played out and general audiences are growing tired of the characters. Superhero fatigue is most definitely real.
This post was edited on 7/12/23 at 2:04 pm
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10646 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 2:15 pm to
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It might, but the MCU is successful enough to take risks like this to broaden its appeal.

Like I’ve said before, box office success is no longer the indicator of a project’s success that it once was. Streaming has changed everything.


So Antman, Little Mermaid, and Elemental weren't flops? The entertainment media that declared them flops don't know what they are talking about? Disney is not hemorrhaging money from these projects but actually making money? Wow, i had no idea. It's good to lose 200m when you can add that pos to your streaming service.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51665 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 2:35 pm to
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These properties are all played out and general audiences are growing tired of the characters. Superhero fatigue is most definitely real.


All genres are struggling, not just superhero films. And Guardians shows audiences will still come out for a good one. You're also underestimating the popularity of the Xmen.
Posted by ellunchboxo
Gtown
Member since Feb 2009
18806 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 7:23 pm to
Antman was a flop because they took away the only interesting thing about antman. The fact that he gets small and everything else is large.

Everybody small was stupid.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39229 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 7:29 pm to
There's been 8 Spiderman and 8 Batman movies and people aren't tired of those. X-Men has a bunch of characters you can mix and match to keep things fresh. There's plenty of things Marvel can do to differentiate themselves from Fox's X-Men movies to bring audiences back.
Posted by Death Before Disco
Member since Dec 2009
6178 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 7:35 pm to
I think the character and casting choices are going to be huge for X-Men. If they go with the most well-known X-Men and have actors that fit the part, it will be big. But if they go another route, it could just be a whimper.
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