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re: Why was Superman not very good?

Posted on 8/18/25 at 6:53 pm to
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 8/18/25 at 6:53 pm to
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Studios aren't greenlighting films that need 700-800 mil just to break even lol

They greenlit a $280 million dollar tv show on a streaming service that’s losing money.

They paid Robert Downey Jr $150 million dollars for Infinity War and Endgame.

They would absolutely do it.

You need to read up on legal responsibilities to corporate shareholders.
People go to real Federal prison for fraud.

Advertising cost alone are about $10,000 a second every time it’s on tv or YouTube.

Movie studios are no longer independent businesses, the are small pieces of massive conglomerates.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
43005 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:52 am to
Meanwhile…

quote:

Jurassic World: Rebirth

WORLDWIDE
$828,832,885


Same summer. Same box office era.

To be clear, this was a bad movie that I did see. We’re not talking about TopGun Maverick treatment of a beloved original.
JW R was a hot mess.

But carry on with your cope.


*Loving how facts trigger some.
This post was edited on 8/19/25 at 11:00 am
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13788 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 11:04 am to
quote:

Meanwhile…


Jurassic World: Rebirth

WORLDWIDE
$828,832,885


Eh, that just means that Gunn needs to put genetically designed kryponite filled dinosaurs in the next Superman Movie to do battle with Krypto.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
43005 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 11:12 am to
Wasn’t there already a generic fire breathing monster?
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
58964 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 11:25 am to
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But carry on with your cope.


Wtf are you talking about
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 8/19/25 at 12:01 pm to
Stop.

Just stop.

Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
58964 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 12:08 pm to
Stop what? Go ahead and prove that I'm wrong. Do you not believe that WB will be collecting ancillary revenues?? It's just the box office and nothing else
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
58964 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 12:12 pm to
If it's such a flop, why is he allowed to continue? Wouldn't you think Zaslav would put a stop the bleeding?

New interview with Gunn

quote:

WILSON: That’s astonishing. And I just read today in the trades that you’re writing something else?

GUNN: Seconds before I got on the phone with you, I was working on that. I had a meeting about Clayface this morning, which is a movie that James Watkins is directing that I’m really hopeful about. And right before I got on here, I’ve been writing the Superman sequel script.



beware, possible spoilers for Peacemaker
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58310 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 12:30 pm to
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but best live action Superman film made in my lifetime.
MoS> this superman.

Hell a good portion of Superman Returns was better than this......


This superman had some very bright parts but others were cringy Jams gun being james gun trying to re kindle the magic he has with Guardians. Like Taika with Ragnarök and Love and Thunder.
This post was edited on 8/19/25 at 12:33 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
58964 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

MoS> this superman.


Agreed...not even close for me.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
43005 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 1:29 pm to
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ancillary revenues





Pennies on what merchandise ? Pre order your Krypto plushie yet?
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
58964 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 1:40 pm to
No, I meant more like licensing fees, product placement, PVOD. You should Google those things when you have a moment
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
43005 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 1:57 pm to
licensing fees includes merch, brainlet.

But if the movie itself isn't a success, the ancillary 'monies' aren't going to be some great bounty.

And Gunn, who runs DC Studios, claims he didn't know when his pet project Peacemaker came out, so THAT'S why Superman is going to streaming earlier?

Please.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
58964 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

But if the movie itself isn't a success, the ancillary 'monies' aren't going to be some great bounty.


Ancillaries cover the marketing costs, which btw, you have no clue how much they spent. But you don't like adding additional revenues because it kills your narrative that it's a "huge flop."

Also, you still haven't answered why it's getting a sequel. You should call Zaslav and tell him it's a flop so he can stop it from moving forward.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
43005 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 2:07 pm to
It was always getting a sequel, because this is Gunn's Ironman foundation for his new DCU.

Doesn't take a fanboy - like you - to figure that out.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
58964 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 2:11 pm to
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Doesn't take a fanboy - like you - to figure that out.


This shows how ridiculous your argument is. I've said from day 1 this movie was average at best. I would take MOS over this any day of the week. But I'm a fanboy for pointing out that you have no clue what the studio needs to turn a profit.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128092 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

MoS> this superman.

Hell a good portion of Superman Returns was better than this......



Only a complete and utter fool would say anything resembling this.

MOS is a complete piece of garbage from a man that had no understanding whatsoever of the character.

This movie was great. Best Superman on screen to date
This post was edited on 8/19/25 at 2:19 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
43005 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 2:23 pm to

quote:

But I'm a fanboy for pointing out that you have no clue what the studio needs to turn a profit.


That's objectively an absurdly false statement.

Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38105 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 2:31 pm to
Jesus man. Are you still trying to pass off that you have no skin in the game?

You really want this Gunn universe to fail.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
58964 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

That's objectively an absurdly false statement.


Cool...show us Superman‘s balance sheet. I'll wait
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