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Why did the Star Wars Prequels Suck?
Posted on 12/16/15 at 9:52 am
Posted on 12/16/15 at 9:52 am
I've now watched all 6 movies and I just need help understanding why they sucked.
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 9:52 am to Byron Bojangles III
They didn't.
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 9:55 am to Byron Bojangles III
Episode #1 was a bloated money grab. I still have a hard time watching it. E3 was actually a pretty good movie imo.
Posted on 12/16/15 at 9:58 am to Byron Bojangles III
Posted on 12/16/15 at 9:58 am to JBeam
I do not think they sucked. I think Lucas became to believe the technology that was developed in the first three was the reason people like star wars. Whatever you want to say about the last three, they were digital effects marvels, just no compelling characters. There was not tension in the prequels, you knew how the story ended, so its not like you really need to the prequals.
Posted on 12/16/15 at 9:59 am to Byron Bojangles III
Bad writing, bad acting, poor directing, CGI fest.
A little trivia to serve as an example: Through all 3 of the prequels, there was not one actual human in clone trooper gear filmed. Not one clone trooper was a person. All CGI.
A little trivia to serve as an example: Through all 3 of the prequels, there was not one actual human in clone trooper gear filmed. Not one clone trooper was a person. All CGI.
Posted on 12/16/15 at 10:00 am to Byron Bojangles III
20 pages.
Midichlorians
Jar Jar
Poor character development between Anakin/Obi-Wan and Anakin/Palpatine
Too much green screen effects
Too much child stuff in I
Lame love story in II
And the list goes on
Midichlorians
Jar Jar
Poor character development between Anakin/Obi-Wan and Anakin/Palpatine
Too much green screen effects
Too much child stuff in I
Lame love story in II
And the list goes on
Posted on 12/16/15 at 10:01 am to Byron Bojangles III
My SO had never seen them and she asked the same question. She's a Harry Potter fan so I gave her an analogy.
It's like the original seven books were great by themselves but then the author decided she didn't like the ambiguity in certain places. So she wrote a book about Harry's parents who invented magic through alien technologies granted to the Illuminati right before ww1. Then it turns out that Harry's parents didn't really like each other all that much and didn't sacrifice themselves to save him but instead got into a fight and fell down some stairs and then Valdamor claimed he killed them.
Not only is it a shitty prequel, it kinda makes the original work shitty by proxy.
It's like the original seven books were great by themselves but then the author decided she didn't like the ambiguity in certain places. So she wrote a book about Harry's parents who invented magic through alien technologies granted to the Illuminati right before ww1. Then it turns out that Harry's parents didn't really like each other all that much and didn't sacrifice themselves to save him but instead got into a fight and fell down some stairs and then Valdamor claimed he killed them.
Not only is it a shitty prequel, it kinda makes the original work shitty by proxy.
Posted on 12/16/15 at 10:05 am to Byron Bojangles III
Posted on 12/16/15 at 10:10 am to Byron Bojangles III
Episode I has no reason to exist. It doesn't progress the overall plot. There is no protagonist. The antagonist is not developed. The humor is juvenile and lacks subtlety. The CGI is impressive but removes the grittiness that made the OT interesting.
Episode II is a little better in terms of plot development but the dialogue is awful and the antagonist (now different from episode I) is undeveloped. Furthermore, it tries to rely in cheap tricks (Yoda's lightsaber fight) instead of complex narrative. Oh yeah, and literally nothing is at stake in the Clone Wars because its clones versus droids.
Episode III is the best of the bunch but still suffers from subpar dialogue and we witness the most undeveloped turn of any villain ever (much less arguably the greatest villain in the history of film.)
Episode II is a little better in terms of plot development but the dialogue is awful and the antagonist (now different from episode I) is undeveloped. Furthermore, it tries to rely in cheap tricks (Yoda's lightsaber fight) instead of complex narrative. Oh yeah, and literally nothing is at stake in the Clone Wars because its clones versus droids.
Episode III is the best of the bunch but still suffers from subpar dialogue and we witness the most undeveloped turn of any villain ever (much less arguably the greatest villain in the history of film.)
Posted on 12/16/15 at 10:11 am to Byron Bojangles III
They pale in comparison to the 77, 80, and 83. Lucas just lost the magic he had back then. Eps 1 and 2 were horrible. Ep 3 did have a little magic- birth of Luke/leia
Posted on 12/16/15 at 10:13 am to Antonio Moss
I choose to view the prequels as the story of Obi-Wan Kenobi, the perfect Jedi.
Posted on 12/16/15 at 10:15 am to LeonPhelps
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I choose to view the prequels as the story of Obi-Wan Kenobi, the perfect Jedi.
Then Episode I is especially irrelevant.
Posted on 12/16/15 at 10:16 am to Byron Bojangles III
youtube plinkett prequel review
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 10:16 am to makinskrilla
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Ep 3 did have a little magic- birth of Luke/leia
And I think we only feel nostalgic about that because we knew it was going to happen, not because it was effectively fleshed out.
Posted on 12/16/15 at 10:17 am to Antonio Moss
quote:
And I think we only feel nostalgic about that because we knew it was going to happen, not because it was effectively fleshed out.
Agreed.
Posted on 12/16/15 at 10:30 am to makinskrilla
The primary reason is this: Lucas hadn't directed a movie in 20 years, yet no one could tell him no. Pretty much every problem with the prequels stems from that major issue. Lucas didn't really know how to make a movie in the CGI era, and he was surrounded by a bunch of yes-men who couldn't push back against his ideas. The original trilogy worked because it was an amazing collection of talent which collaborated on ideas, so the best ideas won out. In the prequels, there was no such collaboration.
Everything else is just a symptom of this disease: Lucas is not a very good director and in the intervening 20 years, his skills had atrophied. (On the other hand, Lucas is an OUTSTANDING producer, his best movies had a director for hire: Raiders of the Lost Ark and Empire Strikes Back).
Everything else is just a symptom of this disease: Lucas is not a very good director and in the intervening 20 years, his skills had atrophied. (On the other hand, Lucas is an OUTSTANDING producer, his best movies had a director for hire: Raiders of the Lost Ark and Empire Strikes Back).
Posted on 12/16/15 at 10:35 am to Byron Bojangles III
Posted on 12/16/15 at 10:59 am to Antonio Moss
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Then Episode I is especially irrelevant.
Obi-Wan is still a padawan and kills a Sith. And you get to see who his master was. That makes is extremely important. Your response made zero sense.
Posted on 12/16/15 at 11:01 am to Byron Bojangles III
While I don't think Star Wars sucks, those movies are pretty good, but they are greatly overrated by a lot of people nevertheless.
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