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Who is actually the blame for the DIRECTV black out?
Posted on 7/13/19 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 7/13/19 at 8:11 pm
Each side is blaming each other. I know locally the station website has blasted AT&T.
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Posted on 7/13/19 at 8:23 pm to sms151t
What station is blacked out? I dont see any channels blocked out on my end.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 8:40 pm to TigerFanatic99
I'm in Arkansas it's Nexstar owned stations. Nbc and Fox locals
Posted on 7/13/19 at 8:43 pm to sms151t
In Mobile, the only locals I still have are fox and abc. The rest have been blacked out.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 8:43 pm to sms151t
KLFY in Lafayette
Posted on 7/13/19 at 8:52 pm to sms151t
Not affecting me, but I hope it will get settled before football season. Otherwise money spent on a good HD antenna might be a good idea.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 8:56 pm to sms151t
I have Dish and nothing blacked out
Posted on 7/13/19 at 8:59 pm to Green Chili Tiger
ABC & Fox here in Cenla. Such bullshite
Posted on 7/13/19 at 9:01 pm to sms151t
Can you just get an OTA? It seems like to me in these situations the stations are upping their price for broadcasting to providers even though you can get them free OTA.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 9:54 pm to sms151t
Everything working on direct tv for me I’m currently in south LA at the moment. However though early this week fox was gone for some reason and I had to stream mlb all star game. Never had that happen before, and such a weird time for it to do that aswell.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 10:12 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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have Dish and nothing blacked out
Except abc and HBO in BR.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 10:17 pm to Puck82
How does ABC/Direct TV not have these stations, but Cox or Comcast does?
Posted on 7/13/19 at 10:18 pm to Puck82
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Except abc and HBO in BR.
I don't live in BR and I use HBONow.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 10:52 pm to sms151t
Typically the channel owner causes the blackout. They want an increase on the fees to carry their channels. Cable/Satellite provider doesn't want to pay an increase. Customer's only recourse is to blame the provider, not the channel owner
Posted on 7/13/19 at 11:59 pm to sms151t
Funny how your bill doesn't go down when this shite happens. At this point it's only the suckers that aren't pirating.
Posted on 7/14/19 at 10:23 am to GentleJackJones
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How does ABC/Direct TV not have these stations, but Cox or Comcast does?
Nextar's contract isn't up for negotiation with Cox or Comcast yet. Their contract with AT&T expired this year.
Posted on 7/14/19 at 11:12 am to sms151t
Suddenlink (part of Altice USA) cable subscribers went through this, with Fox, last year.
www.broadcastingcable.com article about the negotiations
Suddenlink had a price dispute with Viacom that knocked Nickelodeon, Comedy Central, MTV, VH1, TV Land, BET, Paramount Channel, and others off the air for nearly three years. Some of it came back in 2017.
Fox Business News article about what came back
I really missed Comedy Central.
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Fox Reaches Retransmission Agreement With Altice USA
Both sides avoid blackout during football season
Jon Lafayette
Oct 5, 2018
Nearly a week after their distribution agreement expired, Fox Networks Group and Altice USA have reached a new carriage agreement.
The deal includes retransmission consent payments for WNYW-TV, the Fox station in New York, and cable networks FS1, FS2, National Geographic Channel and FX.
Talks were contentious enough for Fox to run spots warning Altice subscribers that they could lose programming including NFL and college football games. And, for about a half an hour early Monday morning, the channels went black.
But negotiations resumed and a deal was eventually reached....
www.broadcastingcable.com article about the negotiations
Suddenlink had a price dispute with Viacom that knocked Nickelodeon, Comedy Central, MTV, VH1, TV Land, BET, Paramount Channel, and others off the air for nearly three years. Some of it came back in 2017.
Fox Business News article about what came back
I really missed Comedy Central.
Posted on 7/14/19 at 12:06 pm to TigerFanatic99
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What station is blacked out? I dont see any channels blocked out on my end.
It's only Nexstar controlled stations.
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Some DirecTV and AT&T U-verse subscribers woke up Thursday to find they lost access to Nexstar stations.
More than 120 stations in 97 markets across the nation, which include ABC, CBS, FOX, and NBC affiliate stations, went dark at 11:59 p.m. local time July 3 after Nexstar and AT&T were unable to reach an agreement, both sides said in competing statements that each blame the other for the blackout.
“Nexstar has removed its channels from your lineup even though we offered Nexstar more money to keep them available to you,” AT&T said in its statement posted at https://tvpromise.att.com. “Nexstar simply said no and elected to remove them from your lineups instead, putting you in the middle of its negotiations.”
According to Nexstar's statement, AT&T "unilaterally dropped the network and local community programming" and refused to extend the existing distribution agreement to Aug. 2.
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Both sides said in competing statements that each blame the other for the blackout.
AT&T said in its statement posted at https://tvpromise.att.com that Nexstar removed its channels "even though we offered Nexstar more money to keep them available to you. Nexstar simply said no and elected to remove them from your lineups instead, putting you in the middle of its negotiations.”
According to Nexstar, AT&T "unilaterally dropped the network and local community programming" and refused to extend the existing distribution agreement to Aug. 2.
In a new statement Monday, Nexstar said it was "reiterating its offer of an unconditional extension of the existing distribution agreement for 30 days to restore the blacked-out programming to viewers and allow the parties to reach a new agreement."
According to the Dallas Morning News, Nexstar is a Texas based company.
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Why AT&T DirecTV customers may no longer see local Fox, ABC, NBC, CBS programming
Written by Dom DiFurio
AT&T DirecTV customers living in cities with Nexstar Media Group-owned stations no longer have access to local affiliate programming from major networks, including ABC, Fox, NBC, The CW and CBS, as a result of a contract dispute. The blackout went into effect July 4 and has yet to be resolved.
Irving-based Nexstar – which owns, operates, programs or provides sales and other services to 174 television stations reaching 39% of U.S. households – claims it offered DirecTV an agreement to keep the channels on its services for a rate comparable to what has been offered to other large distributors. Nexstar owns about 30 stations across Texas, including affiliates in Austin, Amarillo, Tyler, Waco and El Paso.
Dallas Morning News article
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:17 pm to chinese58
I can’t figure out why Directv is always getting caught up in these things. You’d think they’d allow broadcasting if Nexstar asked them to while negotiating
Posted on 7/15/19 at 5:09 pm to sms151t
How this goes...
The cable/satellite will claim that the station group wants unbelievable increases that will surely raise their subscribers monthly rates. They'll also tell you that it's unconscionable for station groups to charge anyone for "free" broadcast TV.
The "huge" increase will be 25 cents per subscriber or something similar. And the cable/satellite company has always charged you for local broadcast channels, no matter what they tell you. Cable/Satellite has to pay the ESPNs and FOX Newses a ton, and they'd rather not pay local TV anything, even though the broadcast stations are a huge part of their viewership.
The TV groups are trying to make up for the TV networks charging them more and more and providing less and less to be an affiliate. There was a time when networks paid TV stations to be their affiliate. Years ago that switched and now you have to pay for the affiliation.
What they won't tell you is that the stations want an increase because the Cable/Satellite companies are losing subscribers at a quick rate. They're not getting paid as they did when Cable was king and pennies for each subscribers added up to a bigger check.
The cable/satellite will claim that the station group wants unbelievable increases that will surely raise their subscribers monthly rates. They'll also tell you that it's unconscionable for station groups to charge anyone for "free" broadcast TV.
The "huge" increase will be 25 cents per subscriber or something similar. And the cable/satellite company has always charged you for local broadcast channels, no matter what they tell you. Cable/Satellite has to pay the ESPNs and FOX Newses a ton, and they'd rather not pay local TV anything, even though the broadcast stations are a huge part of their viewership.
The TV groups are trying to make up for the TV networks charging them more and more and providing less and less to be an affiliate. There was a time when networks paid TV stations to be their affiliate. Years ago that switched and now you have to pay for the affiliation.
What they won't tell you is that the stations want an increase because the Cable/Satellite companies are losing subscribers at a quick rate. They're not getting paid as they did when Cable was king and pennies for each subscribers added up to a bigger check.
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