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re: What'll be the 1st MCU movie to be scored rotten/1st DCU movie to score fresh?
Posted on 4/22/16 at 9:11 pm to 3nOut
Posted on 4/22/16 at 9:11 pm to 3nOut
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in MCU news... Chyna will not be bringing her talents from the small screen to the big screen as she-hulk
Jennifer Walters in her non-Hulk form is far closer to the build of Summer Glau or Amy Acker than she ever was Chyna or Gina Carano.
Interesting tidbit about She-Hulk: Her strength is proportional to how strong Jennifer Walters actually is. The more strength she gains as a regular woman, the more strength she has in her Hulk form.
This post was edited on 4/22/16 at 9:13 pm
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Posted on 4/23/16 at 12:13 am to lsutigersFTW
Could be strange, but people love Cumberbatch.
Personally i think Strange could be cool
Personally i think Strange could be cool
Posted on 4/23/16 at 12:15 am to lsutigersFTW
DC is garbage
Posted on 4/23/16 at 2:13 pm to abellsujr
quote:The first GotG has a lot of "One Hit Wonder" stuff going for it:
As far as GotG 2? There's no way I could possibly see that as having a rotten rating. James Gunn is returning. The budget will be bigger. The cast is returning. I just see that as being an extension of the success of the first one.
1) The music. That was a pleasant surprise the first time around, it might be played out. The concept itself isn't new and fresh anymore. The songs might not be as memorable.
2) Quill's interaction with the aliens- his crew should be used to his expressions (and vice versa) by the second movie, so the cute naivety and misunderstandings won't be as funny. Also, the crew should be aware of the music by now (he only has 2 tapes).
3) The conflict- they could go after Ronin and take him down, making the film complete inside itself. They can't do that with Thanos, it would seriously derail the rest of the MCU. Yet, that seems to be at least Drax's stated intent, and should be Gamora's as well.
So this movie might be "bigger", but less satifying in terms of resolution at the end. It could lose a lot of the charm from the original, being either an annoying cliche and repeat of the first one, or too serious.
I hope it's good, but there's definitely the very big potential for a bust. It will be interesting to see how much they are allowed to "protect" this franchise (as it's Marvel's scifi ticket as well, something Star Wars will make more profitable), as compared to just submerging it into the overall MCU line.
Posted on 4/23/16 at 2:36 pm to Scoob
I have a feeling that Thanos shows up in the third act of GotG and then shows up in Asgard in the third act of Thor 3 before coming to Earth in Infinity War
Posted on 4/23/16 at 2:56 pm to Scoob
quote:It's hard to be 100% certain, but second movies can end up being either much better or much worse. X-2, TWS, TDK, all were generally received as better movies than the original. You also have situations like AoU and Batman Returns where things just didn't work out as well. As long as they keep the same tone, everything says things will be more of the same. Bust? I don't see it. Not as good? Sure, but certainly not rotten.
So this movie might be "bigger", but less satifying in terms of resolution at the end. It could lose a lot of the charm from the original, being either an annoying cliche and repeat of the first one, or too serious.
There is a huge world for them to explore and the possibilities story wise are endless. They will have to focus more on story now. They've gotten the introductions out of the way. The story will have to be interesting, and I think they set some things up for that in the first one. It will come down to execution.
This post was edited on 4/23/16 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 4/23/16 at 2:58 pm to abellsujr
I seriously doubt that Marvel will have single film between now and Infinity War 2 get a rotten score. They have their formula and they know how to play the game with critics.
Posted on 4/23/16 at 3:40 pm to The Last Son
quote:And they'eve established themselves as basically an entire genre; it isn't just "epic blockbuster", "big action" or even "superhero" movie now, it's "MCU" movie.
I seriously doubt that Marvel will have single film between now and Infinity War 2 get a rotten score. They have their formula and they know how to play the game with critics.
There might be a dud upcoming, and I don't know if the critics would have the balls to crush them on it. They'd probably still rate it as "ok", even if it's really awful.
Posted on 4/23/16 at 3:52 pm to Scoob
They did that with Thor 2 and Iron Man 3.
Posted on 4/23/16 at 8:40 pm to Scoob
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3) The conflict- they could go after Ronin and take him down, making the film complete inside itself. They can't do that with Thanos, it would seriously derail the rest of the MCU. Yet, that seems to be at least Drax's stated intent, and should be Gamora's as well.
I thought it was pretty clear that the 2nd one would be about Quill finding his father. Plus Nebula is still out there.
Posted on 4/23/16 at 10:09 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
In the comics Quills father is a antagonist.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 2:44 am to SammyTiger
J'Sonn of Spartax is a grade A a-hole and a tyrant.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 12:01 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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J'Sonn of Spartax is a grade A a-hole and a tyrant.
yeah well i wasn't trying to ruin it for everyone.
also, J'Sonn is just such a lame alien name.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 12:50 pm to lsutigersFTW
The first Captain America wasn't classified rotten? That thing was god awful.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 1:00 pm to ProjectP2294
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I think Thor has a chance, because they just aren't well thought of movies (relative to the other MCU films).
I agree with this, in reality both of the other Thor movies were really close to being there already and this one may be no different. The standalone Thor movies just aren't good though they should be.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 1:05 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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The first Captain America wasn't classified rotten? That thing was god awful.
It's very surprising that there hasn't' been any rottens up to this point because some of those films freaking sucked, IMO. With that being said, I do think Marvel is in a very good spot now and expect their films to keep getting better and better.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 1:28 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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The first Captain America wasn't classified rotten? That thing was god awful.
BTW, James Gunn has said multiple times that J'Son would not be Quill's father.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 2:03 pm to The Last Son
I wouldn't say it's god awful, but it did bore me. I watched it again recently and it's just not a film that I enjoy. I found Cap to be bland and boring, not only in this film but in the first avengers as well. Cap 2, however, was a very well made action flick.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 2:19 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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The first Captain America wasn't classified rotten? That thing was god awful.
RT has it at a 79% w/a 6.9/10 average. The RT audience score is 74% w/a 3.7/5.
This post was edited on 4/24/16 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 4/24/16 at 2:42 pm to Dr RC
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The RT audience score is 74% w/a 3.7/5.
BvS also has a 3.7 score, so not sure that these RT scores really mean much
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