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What was the first modern-style TV drama?

Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:18 am
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:18 am
I would submit that modern-style TV dramas are defined by two main characteristics:

1. Although they are broken up into episodes, they are not episodic in nature. They have an overarching plot which is materially advanced in almost every episode, so you can't generally pick them up mid-series or skip an episode. They are intended to be watched from first episode to last, like an extremely long movie. These are shows designed for the era of DVR and streaming media.

2. They have acting and effects comparable to movies. If you walk into a room where one of these shows is playing on TV, you cannot generally tell at a glance that it is a TV series as compared to a movie. They also often have actors who have appeared in movies.

(I thought about adding a third characteristic here, which is that they generally deal with more adult themes and are more cavalier with language and sexuality than TV shows of previous eras, but I decided not to. I don't want to restrict possible answers based on that.)

So what would you say is the first truly modern TV series? I am no TV historian but I will say the first show I can remember watching and thinking, "This is something completely different," is the 2004 reboot of Battlestar Galactica. That show had effects far beyond anything I'd seen on a sci-fi TV show to that point, had a deep and engaging plot that was advanced in every episode, and had movie-level acting and direction. It did, in fact, feel like watching a movie that was thirty hours long (or however long the entire show would be watched back-to-back).

Anything further back than that that you think fits the bill?
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:22 am to
Not the first, but I have argued that Lost is largely responsible for a lot of the programming we see today (in a good way).
Posted by BabyTac
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:24 am to
Most soap operas
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:30 am to
Lost is a good answer. I hadn't thought about that one.

To BabyTac: soap operas don't even come close to meeting requirement #2.
Posted by Jay Quest
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:32 am to
You had some highly talented writers producing some of the best TV dramas in history during the 50s.
Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
Chicago, IL
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:33 am to
24 maybe (2001)
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:48 am to
Some of y’all are not going back far enough. The Mary Tyler Moore company invented the modern TV drama in 1981 and 1982 with Hill Street Blues and St. Elsewhere. They actually had handheld camera shots in the pilot episodes. And there were multiple episode story arcs.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 7:50 am
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:59 am to
Interesting. I've not seen either of those. Do they meet requirement #2?
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:01 am to
quote:

Interesting. I've not seen either of those. Do they meet requirement #2?


They don’t have a whole lot of actors that would show up in movies. (St. Elsewhere did have Denzel Washington.) But the acting is gritty as frick.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:02 am to
Dallas
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:04 am to
roots?
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:04 am to
Certainly shows had serial "elements" without being truly threaded and fully serial - Hill Street Blues, I often offer as sort of the prototype for the modern drama (exemplified in the HBO Golden Era shows - The Wire and The Sopranos which sort of broke the dam.)

But, what you're looking for is Babylon 5, IMHO. Its Star Trek competitor, DS9, did a lot for serialization as well, but B5 was intended to be a filmed novel, beginning to end.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:06 am to
quote:

What was the first modern-style TV drama?

In terms of "modern" type TV dramas, although there are others that may be better examples, the first one that comes to my mind is NYPD Blue (started in September 1993). It definitely changed the way those types of shows were seen I think, and led to staples like Law & Order, SVU, etc. ER was another one (started in September 1994).
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 8:08 am
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:10 am to
Would Miami Vice qualify?
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 8:27 am
Posted by DaleGribble
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:04 am to
The Fugitive would qualify and may not even be the first.
Posted by DaleGribble
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:05 am to
quote:

roots?



Was definitely a mini-series.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:15 am to
quote:

The Fugitive would qualify and may not even be the first.
The 60's were packed with dramas with ongoing plots. The Prisoner, The Invaders...
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:23 am to
24 GOAT
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:26 am to
The Sopranos but even that is a little episodic in the first season.

You could make an argument for The West Wing too
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:33 am to
quote:

Some of y’all are not going back far enough. The Mary Tyler Moore company invented the modern TV drama in 1981 and 1982 with Hill Street Blues and St. Elsewhere.


First thing I thought of was Hill Street Blues.
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