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re: What I didn’t like about Mad Men
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:23 pm to LaLadyinTx
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:23 pm to LaLadyinTx
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I'm both a woman
So, how YOU doin'?
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I was around in the 1960's
Nevermind, then.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:48 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Mamet at least has an angle with Mamet speak. Sorkin is the one I hate - every line is so absurdly "written".
Sorkin is an excellent writer, but he needs to be paired with a strong director that has the ability to pull his head from his own arse at times and find the balance
Posted on 6/24/20 at 3:09 pm to selfgen
It's almost as if it was a TV show written by professional writers.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 3:12 pm to Ace Midnight
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quote:
I was around in the 1960's
Nevermind, then.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 5:20 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Bravo. Well said.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 5:54 pm to Peazey
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People weren't smarter and more educated in the past.
Maybe not as educated but certainly more mature, more common sense and the men weren't pussies.
Unless I need a engineer, doctor, accountant, scientist or lawyer a degree in today's world is almost meaningless.
Plus a high school education in the 50's or 60's is more than the equal to 90% of college graduates today. Those folks actually had to read,write and pass math.
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modern populations are more educated than the past.
Doesn't mean they're smarter.motivated or mature.
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 6/24/20 at 6:22 pm to selfgen
Shakespeare was bullshite too. No way those people back then were going around spouting eloquent soliloquies.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.’
Not buying it for a second.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.’
Not buying it for a second.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 6:27 pm to selfgen
Early on I was hoping Don was a serial killer.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 6:59 pm to wildtigercat93
I totally agree with this!
Jon Hamm is better looking and more realistic than those fake pretty boys: DiCrapio, Piss & Foney, I mean Clooney.
Jon Hamm is better looking and more realistic than those fake pretty boys: DiCrapio, Piss & Foney, I mean Clooney.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 7:03 pm to RD Dawg
You are right, plus when my grandma went to 1st grade in 1927, she already had to know how to read. Have you ever seen a 1st grade primer book from the 1920s/1930s?? It think it's the equivalent to 4th grade nowadays. And this was for public school.
I know that a lot of people did not get education, but the ones that did were EDUCATED. Like the ones who would work at an ad agency.
I know that a lot of people did not get education, but the ones that did were EDUCATED. Like the ones who would work at an ad agency.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 7:21 pm to GreenRockTiger
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You are right, plus when my grandma went to 1st grade in 1927, she already had to know how to read. Have you ever seen a 1st grade primer book from the 1920s/1930s?? It think it's the equivalent to 4th grade nowadays. And this was for public school
And NOBODY got a pass to the next grade.My Uncle told me multiple stories from the 50's where guys in their teens were still in elementary school just because teachers
refused to pass em unless they could do the work.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 7:29 pm to RD Dawg
This is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 from Salina, KS. It was taken from the original document on file at the Smoky Valley Genealogical Society and Library in Salina, KS and reprinted by the Salina Journal.
8th Grade Final Exam: Salina, KS – 1895
Grammar (Time, one hour)
1. Give nine rules for the use of Capital Letters.
2. Name the Parts of Speech and define those that have no modifications.
3. Define Verse, Stanza and Paragraph.
4. What are the Principal Parts of a verb? Give Principal parts of do, lie, lay and run.
5. Define Case, Illustrate each Case.
6. What is Punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of Punctuation.
7 – 10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.
Arithmetic
(Time, 1.25 hours)
1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50 cts. per bu., deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?
4. District No. 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find cost of 6720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.
7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $20.00 per in?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance around which is 640 rods?
10.Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt.
U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)
1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided.
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus.
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States.
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas.
6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, and 1865?
Orthography
(Time, one hour)
1. What is meant by the following: Alphabet, phonetic orthography, etymology, syllabication?
2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
3. What are the following: Alphabet, phonetic orthography, etymology, syllabication?
4. Give four substitutes for caret ‘u’.
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final ‘e’. Name two exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: Bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, super.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: Card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences, Cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain vein, raze, raise, rays.
10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.
Geography
(Time, one hour)
1. What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of N.A.
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba, Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fermandez, Aspinwolf and Orinoco.
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S.
7. Name all the republics of Europe and give capital of each.
8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give inclination of the earth.
8th Grade Final Exam: Salina, KS – 1895
Grammar (Time, one hour)
1. Give nine rules for the use of Capital Letters.
2. Name the Parts of Speech and define those that have no modifications.
3. Define Verse, Stanza and Paragraph.
4. What are the Principal Parts of a verb? Give Principal parts of do, lie, lay and run.
5. Define Case, Illustrate each Case.
6. What is Punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of Punctuation.
7 – 10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.
Arithmetic
(Time, 1.25 hours)
1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50 cts. per bu., deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?
4. District No. 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find cost of 6720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.
7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $20.00 per in?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance around which is 640 rods?
10.Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt.
U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)
1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided.
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus.
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States.
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas.
6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, and 1865?
Orthography
(Time, one hour)
1. What is meant by the following: Alphabet, phonetic orthography, etymology, syllabication?
2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
3. What are the following: Alphabet, phonetic orthography, etymology, syllabication?
4. Give four substitutes for caret ‘u’.
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final ‘e’. Name two exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: Bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, super.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: Card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences, Cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain vein, raze, raise, rays.
10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.
Geography
(Time, one hour)
1. What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of N.A.
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba, Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fermandez, Aspinwolf and Orinoco.
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S.
7. Name all the republics of Europe and give capital of each.
8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give inclination of the earth.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 7:35 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
God almighty and check out the time in the
Grammer section.
And you still had to write a 150 word essay?
No wonder Marc McCain was studying all the
time.
Grammer section.
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(Time, one hour
And you still had to write a 150 word essay?
No wonder Marc McCain was studying all the
time.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 8:52 pm to Michael T. Tiger
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I found it a bit difficult to get through the second time. Much of that had to do with where I was at mentally when I watched. Frankly, the biggest issue is that with few exceptions, the characters aren't likable or redeemable.
Same here actually. And it’s only my own odd inclinations not the shows fault. But it’s funny now that you mention it, virtually every character is deplorable or unlikeable or both. But it works.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:14 pm to Havoc
You definitely wouldn’t like Billions. Entertaining show but they drop movie and pop culture references every few minutes. Told my wife, people don’t talk like that. Shocker Sorkin is a writer on this show.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 12:59 am to lsuwins3
I don’t know, witty dialogue is supposed to be a good thing, right? I mean a show featuring usual typical talking could be pretty freaking lame.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 8:30 am to selfgen
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The way everybody spoke was just so inauthentic. Everyone always had the clever retort, the quick witty response. Everything was just so obviously coming off a script. People just don’t talk like that in normal conversation
dont watch deadwood then
Posted on 6/25/20 at 8:43 am to selfgen
silver spoon ivy league lib arts grads spoke differently in the 60s
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